COLLAPSE of Personal Computing

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COLLAPSE of Personal Computing | Investigation Into the Destruction of Ownership​




if things go this way, will you be willing to rent a computer from the cloud?

I hope it never happens it will be very sad if to does go that way.

(mods sorry if this is in wrong section, since its discussing hardware though this was correct place for it)
 
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I like what Gamers Nexus does, but they really need to learn how to make more concise videos. There's far too much fluff and repetition.

There definitely seems to be a concerted effort to push everyone onto the "cloud", accessed only through locked-down devices like phones. I'm not sure if the thing with AI using all the RAM is a deliberate part of that or just because of the general AI fervour. I'm not as pessimistic as Steve about the future though; I think there's still a fair chance for things to turn around. Maybe the AI bubble will pop, allowing prices to go back down, or maybe Chinese companies will be able to expand enough to fill the void. It's pretty sad that we've reached the point where I'm hoping that China will save us.
 
I love gamersnexus but the misery porn they've kinda gotten themselves into has been a bit much. I don't disagree with the sentiment though, that in the medium term home computing is going to stagnate and decline. Still, we have so much tech and software to go back to it's time to bunker up and go back to hobbyist computing and service ourselves a bit more. We got used to massive corps doing all the heavy lifting and got a little bit spoiled. It was nice, we got awesome and for the majority of the time cheap hardware and software, but the pendulum shift back to centralised / mainframe style computing creates some space for new entrants to service the broader/shallower home market, and that allows for some innovation and risk.

Basically in order for long term growth of something you need a periodic bush fire, I think we're overdue fora bit of a clear out as there was stagnation and risk aversion and the industry was just in a kinda incremental loop.

In the short term it's definitely going to suck though.
 
I like GamersNexus too, but I watched about an hour of the latest video and then just thought "WTF am I doing?". We all know how bad it is, and it's likely not getting better.
The anti-AI stance in videos borders on immature at times I feel, but plays in to what the vocal commenters like to parrot.

Times are changing, and sure I don't like it at the moment, but the genie's out of the bottle now. Hopefully things level out over the next few years, and we're left in a much better state once they do.
If you look at what a high-end computer from 10 years ago can still run these days, there's still a lot of fun to be had in the second hand market.
 
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I like what Gamers Nexus does, but they really need to learn how to make more concise videos. There's far too much fluff and repetition.

There definitely seems to be a concerted effort to push everyone onto the "cloud", accessed only through locked-down devices like phones. I'm not sure if the thing with AI using all the RAM is a deliberate part of that or just because of the general AI fervour. I'm not as pessimistic as Steve about the future though; I think there's still a fair chance for things to turn around. Maybe the AI bubble will pop, allowing prices to go back down, or maybe Chinese companies will be able to expand enough to fill the void. It's pretty sad that we've reached the point where I'm hoping that China will save us.
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On the contrary, the future of AI is likely to be running more inference on models locally....precisely because it's not going to be practical or economical long term to have all the compute in the cloud.
 
I used to like Steve's content, entertaining enough, as is Jay.
But, I get the impression that his videos have largely gone too downbeat, not suggesting that there aren't some very real problems going on, and either I've become more sensitive to his frequent F bombs he drops or he has upped the use of the F word a lot.
I think that he also has a type of advocacy channel, where I hoped that his longer rants would have been pushed there.
A more abridged and concise version kept for his main channel.
 
I dunno about everyone else but I'm just sick of everything being grim. Yeah it probably is, so lets look at things that aren't a little bit more.
 
I think they're publishing more of what gets the most views, for better or for worse. GN's videos were popular but really exploded when covering a couple of different controversies over the past few years.

But yeah, it feels like more of an 'exposé' channel now which is fine when you want to watch a specific one, but not really my jam when it's relentless. I just wanna see more super indepth cooling reviews.
 
I do miss the days when PC hardware felt exciting rather than just expensive and gloomy. Second hand gear is probably where the fun is for a lot of people now.
 
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kar said:
I dunno about everyone else but I'm just sick of everything being grim. Yeah it probably is, so lets look at things that aren't a little bit more.
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It’s that nature of social media algorithms. It’s just much easier to get engagement by ragebaiting people that saying something positive…so that’s what floats to the top of the algorithms and we end up in a world where everyone spends half their time online thinking the world is falling apart.

The reality is that the vast majority of people are quite happily just getting on with their lives….with a strong correlation between personal happiness and less time spent online.
 
AMDPower said:

COLLAPSE of Personal Computing | Investigation Into the Destruction of Ownership​




if things go this way, will you be willing to rent a computer from the cloud?

I hope it never happens it will be very sad if to does go that way.

(mods sorry if this is in wrong section, since its discussing hardware though this was correct place for it)
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Nah, not a chance mate. The thought of renting a basic PC on a monthly subscription makes my skin crawl.

If they push everything to the cloud, you basically own nothing and they can jack up the prices whenever they fancy. I'd much rather keep my own hardware under my own roof where I actually control it. Spot on with your post, it'd be a proper sad state of affairs if it goes that way.
 
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With a 270k and a 5070Ti, my spec is good for a number of years, thankfully.

Maybe it's an age thing, but ownership seems too important for me, over that of a subscription based access terminal.

Having built / owned personal computers for decades it's kinda woven into my DNA, anything other than ownership is most distasteful.

If it ever got to that point of home computing being severely compromised I would think that we would have many other things to worry about than just personal computers...
 
kar said:
I dunno about everyone else but I'm just sick of everything being grim. Yeah it probably is, so lets look at things that aren't a little bit more.
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Gloom and doom is what entertains people on social media these days even if they physical don't see it themselves.
 
I'm not a fan of the reliance and trust placed in AI, to me it's just a more useful search engine but you still need to fact check.
We got rid of someone at work fairly recently because they used and placed blind trust into AI.
 
malachi said:
Gloom and doom is what entertains people on social media these days even if they physical don't see it themselves.
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Even their latest look at Intel’s handheld starts with another "We all hate AI" spiel. I just turned it off in the first 30 seconds.
I tend not to watch their AI stuff because it’s tedious, but they can’t help but drop it in to everything now.

For sure hardware sucks right now, but it’ll either get better, or it won’t. Make do with what you have, play different stuff that runs well on it if it’s older. If it moves to a rental future, I’m out. I can ride my bike and drink beer, can’t make me rent those things. :D
 
To an extent I do think things are moving in the same direction as music/movies where the priority is given to streaming content and sometimes being unable to purchase a physical copy.

I think the big corps are trying to do the same thing with home computing. If they continue to shift focus to enterprise kit for profits, then yeah home computing is gonna suffer.

But then maybe it will lead to new products for new starts who do not have the same large capacity for production and new producers could start specifically to produce for home users.
 
I had not known about this previous to this article.....

www.bbc.co.uk

Nvidia announces new AI chip for personal computers

The technology giant's boss Jensen Huang called the move the "reinvention of the computer".
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

I'm not aware of the details of what this RTX Spark chip could bring, but it seems that Nvidia had lined up quite a number of manufacturers to include it.
 
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