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COLLAPSE of Personal Computing

The sunny scenario is if we're happy to work with what's in-channel, there's such a huge backlog of software to consume, a myriad of esoteric hardware similarly to play with. AI cuts both ways, it's going to focus large manufacturers to chase supplying the AI market with compute, but AI will allow small / independent developers to write new software more quickly than they otherwise would putting out AA quality games that wouldn't have been possible 6 months ago.

As enthusiasts we're going to have to work hard to support the merchants and ecosystem around us and keep them afloat until the pendulum swings back to personal compute (and it will, people are going to want AI on device not in the cloud - simply put becuase it puts them in complete control, already our cloud AI overlords are saying what we can / can't do at the margins and as they start chasing heavier and heavier returns for their post ipo shareholders, they are going to turn the screws).
 
I get the overall premise, but the title is too general. The market for power hungry gaming PCs with £1,2 even 3k graphics cards likely will (and probably should) continue to decline as Nvidia isn’t willing or able to service the while remaining fabless, so the parts of the markets Nvidia have been hard marketing too have been neglected. A significant reason why areas of the market are struggling with supply is the current state of Intel which has a massive impact on all of the industry resulting in significant shortages that AMD and Nvidia combined will never come close to filling so a retraction was always on the cards and compounds issues especially for certain business operating in supply channels.
 
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As enthusiasts we're going to have to work hard to support the merchants and ecosystem around us and keep them afloat until the pendulum swings back to personal compute
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Hard disagree. It’s not my duty to buy crap I don’t want, when there’s no memory and storage to back it up.
The market is going to change hugely, and many companies are going to close. If things get back to the real world, there will always be someone selling what we need.
 
You will own nothing, you will be streaming your hardware from Nvidia data centres, you will have no privacy, everything stored on your streamed PC will be sold to data brokers and used to train AI which will eventually take over your job.

Not today, not tomorrow but soon enough.

You can't reason with them, you can't tell them but but.... we are loyal, we made you, we made the house of Ge-Force, yes, Nvidia are ubiquitous, now there is nowhere left to grow, they have market saturation, so they need to change what the market is.

 
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COLLAPSE of Personal Computing

COLLAPSE of Personal Computing | Investigation Into the Destruction of Ownership if things go this way, will you be willing to rent a computer from the cloud? I hope it never happens it will be very sad if to does go that way. (mods sorry if this is in wrong section, since its discussing...
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I find it very interesting Cooler Master sales data showed CPU liquid coolers revenue is 2 times bigger than CPU air coolers. There is massive market for CPU liquid coolers, not realised CPU air coolers is a small market.

I found CPU liquid cooler much better than my old CPU air cooler. I got no idea why some people want to buy CPU air cooler, they are terrible dust magnet.
 
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I find it very interesting Cooler Master sales data showed CPU liquid coolers revenue is 2 times bigger than CPU air coolers. There is massive market for CPU liquid coolers, not realised CPU air coolers is a small market.

I found CPU liquid cooler much better than my old CPU air cooler. I got no idea why some people want to buy CPU air cooler, they are terrible dust magnet.
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Air coolers are better because you dont need to deal with a failing pump, but that may change with the AIO Noctua are revealing at Computex.
 
Its an unfortunate effect of uncapped wealth accumulation be that individuals, the state or corporations.

They basically become a black hole of attraction and ownership of assets that they want to lease back to normal people such that wealth flows in their direction. The only things that really stop it are over inflation leading to market changes (think of the likes of CISCO and IBM which priced themselves out), regulation and war. There comes a point where you cannot compete against them in a world of finite resources.

love em or hate them Nvidia has created a monopoly and I think their consumer graphics arm should be forced to split away from their data centre business due to that monopoly and conflicts of interests.
 
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COLLAPSE of Personal Computing

COLLAPSE of Personal Computing | Investigation Into the Destruction of Ownership if things go this way, will you be willing to rent a computer from the cloud? I hope it never happens it will be very sad if to does go that way. (mods sorry if this is in wrong section, since its discussing...
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If an AI collapse leaves Nvidia with a load of inventory they can't sell, can they actually redeploy it for cloud gaming? There's the data centre hurdle, though they can afford to buy a few stalled projects.
 
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If your old enough like me , you would remember Ram prices in the 90s and I can tell you it was expensive
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Totally different scenario though. A time where not everyone would have a computer in their home, the computer was very much a luxury, and companies making memory were nothing like the size they are today.
We have been royally screwed in the modern era, in the push to remove home compute.
 
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For me it all boils down to modern companies doing whatever they can to get as many people as possible onto subscription models, plus i imagine if you do rent your processing power somewhere in the small print they will be allowed to use your data in some way that benefits them.
 
Depends on the cost.
I don't play games very often. So it would probably work well for me.

100 a year would probably be too much for me. And I can't see it being cheaper than that.

Lets say I need a decent device anyway. Probably 300?

Edit. 100 a year/10 pounds a month would probably be max. Anything more and a dedicated pc is probably better.
 
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