Commercial battery banks

joeyjojo said:
To answer the question in the OP, I wouldn't be too concerned. The safety requirements are presumably just as stringent (relative to the threat) as any other utility. The contractor or whoever is involved in procurement will presumably have some experience. [..]
Yes you could potentially die in a battery explosion toxic gas cloud, but do you know the likelihood of that happening? Probably more likely to die in a freak gasoline fight accident.
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1) You have no idea whether or not that's true.

2) Even it is (and there's no evidence that it is), the result would be wildly skewed by petroleum products being far more common and far more widespread than huge battery banks with a capacity of at least a few GWh. It would, therefore, be irrelevant to the likelihood of each close to such a battery bank.

3) The use of shipping containers doesn't inspire confidence that this is a well designed facility that takes potential risks into account. The idea that an extremely fashionable thing is subject to the same scrutiny as an extremely unfashionable one obviously isn't true, so it would be unrealistic to assume that it's subject to the same safety requirements applied equally stringently.
 
tom_e said:
Can someone clear up what one of these installations actually is?

Is it literally some massive batteries hooked up to the national grid to charge and then used for something?
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Attach to a wind farm or similar generator plant to charge, then the electricity can be stored and released to the grid as required.

A means of regulation of supply.

Angilion said:
3) The use of shipping containers doesn't inspire confidence that this is a well designed facility that takes potential risks into account. The idea that an extremely fashionable thing is subject to the same scrutiny as an extremely unfashionable one obviously isn't true, so it would be unrealistic to assume that it's subject to the same safety requirements applied equally stringently.
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For shipping containers read 'Modular plant'

Can be shipped to site by road or rail and easily hooked up on site with minimal disruption.
 
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Angilion said:
1) You have no idea whether or not that's true.

2) Even it is (and there's no evidence that it is), the result would be wildly skewed by petroleum products being far more common and far more widespread than huge battery banks with a capacity of at least a few GWh. It would, therefore, be irrelevant to the likelihood of each close to such a battery bank.

3) The use of shipping containers doesn't inspire confidence that this is a well designed facility that takes potential risks into account. The idea that an extremely fashionable thing is subject to the same scrutiny as an extremely unfashionable one obviously isn't true, so it would be unrealistic to assume that it's subject to the same safety requirements applied equally stringently.
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big steel boxes sound a promising start for containing fires.

especially with some decent insualtion.
 
Angilion said:
1) You have no idea whether or not that's true.

2) Even it is (and there's no evidence that it is), the result would be wildly skewed by petroleum products being far more common and far more widespread than huge battery banks with a capacity of at least a few GWh. It would, therefore, be irrelevant to the likelihood of each close to such a battery bank.

3) The use of shipping containers doesn't inspire confidence that this is a well designed facility that takes potential risks into account. The idea that an extremely fashionable thing is subject to the same scrutiny as an extremely unfashionable one obviously isn't true, so it would be unrealistic to assume that it's subject to the same safety requirements applied equally stringently.
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what utter rubbish, so because they use storage containers then that doesn't feel you with confidence.
what did I say about public being stupid and trying to block stuff they have no knowledge about.

what is wrong with a shipping container, they are used as they fit on a lorry and are easy to move about. They have been inn use for over 5 years around the world. Its not some hobo connecting batteries up in some shed. we are talking about massive companies like Mitsubishi, BYD and others. who as I have said have been supplying such units for many years.
 
A lot of companies that I use at work have their processes out of shipping containers. It's sensible. They're standard shapes, sizes and designs. Easy to transport. Easy to interface with.
 
VincentHanna said:
You work in planning don't you :D

My friend does as well and the public drive him mad with their unfounded scaremongering.
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not even close, but I have seen to many projects scrapped in local area due to public, that includes my parents who don't want their village to change. Despite them knowing we need more houses in the country.

whih is why it should be a very limited scope of what public can influence, at the moment public have far to much say.
one which really annoys me, is it'll block the view I paid for, really where's the view on your deeds. What you relay mean is you paid for something that currently you have but is not guaranteed in the slightest.
nearly everyone wants infrastructure and projects, but 99% of people will complain about anything and everything in their back yard.
 
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The complaints sound like "I don't understand this technology but it sounds scary".

Why not use the planning process, go to the council and look at the planning application, including the health and safety section, which given it's an industrial application will be detailed.

Then use the safety proposals use the keywords as a base for your own Google research, this should reassure you or give you grounds for technical appeal to the council - based on researched facts rather than ignorant fears.

Me I wouldn't care to waste my time doing it, but if you care, put in some effort.
 
Its amazing how we have become so conditioned to complain and immediately jump to outrage these days. I assume that the OP doesn't dare go near petrol stations because of the ticking time bomb underneath them. What about the gas supply to your house? Have you seen what happens when you have a gas leak and it ignites in a house.

This won't be some chavs sticking a load of batteries in a shipping container. There will be a huge amount of regulations and safety procedure that has to be followed for this sort of thing. No it won't explode and no you have nothing to worry about.
 
Glaucus said:
what utter rubbish, so because they use storage containers then that doesn't feel you with confidence.
what did I say about public being stupid and trying to block stuff they have no knowledge about.
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You're a fervent evangelist, so your replies on the subject are irrelevant because they're based on faith rather than reality.

what is wrong with a shipping container, they are used as they fit on a lorry and are easy to move about. [..]
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The same is true of folded cardboard boxes. It's true of many other things too. Ease of transportation does not automatically mean something is suitable for any given purpose.
 
lol, you mean some knowledge rather than your non fact based rants. much like the op.

unlike cardboard boxes though a metal container is a perfectly good housing for such systems and again have been used around the world for a long time.
 
tom_e said:
That's what they said about Buncefield fuel depot...
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And the worst one of them all - RAF Fauld.

I very much doubt if this battery bank would blow up, but casually assuming that a highly fashionable thing can't possibly carry any risks and will inevitably be subject to the same stringent standards as something less fashionable is folly.
 
Glaucus said:
lol, you mean some knowledge rather than your non fact based rants. much like the op.
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Hallelujah!

unlike cardboard boxes though a metal container is a perfectly good housing for such systems and again have been used around the world for a long time.
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Nicely done switch from "they're easy to transport" to "they're good for this purpose". People who don't read the previous posts might well fall for it. You preach well!
 
Angilion said:
Hallelujah!



Nicely done switch from "they're easy to transport" to "they're good for this purpose". People who don't read the previous posts might well fall for it. You preach well!
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lol, you didn't realise a metal box is a good shell to use for such things.

no wonder you make such a mess off everything like this. didn't realise people needed it pointing out to that level.
 
To put a bit more info in to this thread, these are the ones we use. We have two rooms full and they work with our rotary UPS systems to carry all the critical load in our building for up to 15 minutes. This is the time between the power failing and the generators kicking in. The limit we have is 15 seconds before the proverbial hits the fan but technically they can and will hold the building for 15 minutes. Anything over 15 seconds in testing conditions and some serious questions will need to be answered. They are visually inspected quarterly, tested on load annually and serviced monthly. The batteries are replaced every 5 years. If you have any more questions, fire away.


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