Community ! Can't believe there isn't a thread.

This is just nonsense. How exactly could troy, a black person, be a lawyer?

First of all - great Pierce, I lol'd.
Jeff being a lawyer doesn't rely on Jeff being a narcissist and not a jock. On the other hand, if Troy was Brittas nut rebel character, it would tie much better with his stubbornness against air conditioning repair lobby and him being quirky and hanging out with the weirdo of the group, and being Jehova Witness etc etc. At the moment his storyline is a typical character written by too many people in the same time pulling in all directions and makes very little sense.
 
I'll have some of Britta in her magicians assistant costume pls inc face paint ;)

There you go ;)
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I've watched Community with the missus over the three seasons and I've been getting fed up with it, it just hasn't been funny over this season especially. It's focused far too much on the individuals and not the situations that surround them...these last three episodes have been completely different and have had me 'lolling'.

Hopefully the next season can improve upon it!
 
8-Bit ep was awesome :D

Yep I enjoyed it! :p

Interesting to see where the show goes now without Dan, I do want Chevy to stay though, he is amazing!

Friday move isn't cool though, we all know shows on Friday have to beg not to be cancelled, just ask Fringe about being on Fridays.
 
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I suspect that Harmon going public with his Chevy Chase beef is what put the final nail in his coffin. I just said to someone the other day that despite what both Sony and Harmon say about the Chevy Chase incident(s) not being the cause of his eventual firing, it certainly made the decision a lot easier - it's easier to fire the guy who isn't on TV than the guy who is.

But hey, Sony hold all the cards. Binning Harmon was always gonna be an easy decision if the network weren't going to fight for him to stay. Four seasons is the magic number for syndication, and the key for Sony to make money long after the show ends.

Next season will be a safe, sellable Community. One which doesn't take risks, one which doesn't try to bend genres, mess with blueprints and turn conventions on their head... In short, it simply won't be Community anymore.
 
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Four seasons is the magic number for syndication, and the key for Sony to make money long after the show ends.

Next season will be a safe, sellable Community. One which doesn't take risks, one which doesn't try to bend genres, mess with blueprints and turn conventions on their head... In short, it simply won't be Community anymore.

You forgot to say 'In my opinion' at the end there.

For starters '4 seasons' means nothing it's the episode count they care about. Community will still be community, if it's syndication they want then why would they want a whole season of episodes that are a different show. If they can syndicate the show they want all the episodes to be the show.
 
You forgot to say 'In my opinion' at the end there.

For starters '4 seasons' means nothing it's the episode count they care about. Community will still be community, if it's syndication they want then why would they want a whole season of episodes that are a different show. If they can syndicate the show they want all the episodes to be the show.

It's a well known fact that NBC have never been behind Community. Aside from Sony finding Harmon hard to deal with, NBC have found it difficult to market the show and have shown very little faith in it. The figures don't lie.

As for syndication - you're kind of right in saying that episode count matters. 100 episodes used to be what a show needs to reach before it is deemed worthy of syndication however in recent years it seems that 88 episodes will get a show into syndication. This is by no means a hard and fast rule; there are some shows which have had less than 70 episodes and still been successful in syndication. At the moment the only exceptions to the rule I can think of is the original Battlestar Galactica and Twin Peaks (which had like 24 episodes or something) but I'm sure there are others.

Community will end with 84 episodes and will almost guarantee it for syndication (if indeed it does end with season four, and given its new time slot it seems very, very likely). If I'm wrong, I'll eat my hair. Then I'll change my dissertation from the sitcom to something else, like period drama or historical documentaries. :p

When I say it'll be a different show I mean it'll be different in tone. It can't be anything BUT different in tone if the lead writer, a man who is known for his creative drive and singular vision for the show, is gone and replaced by two of the poorest writers who are coming from a more successful but far less funny TV show.
 
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As someone said I think without Harmon it could improve, showrunners/creators aren't always the best person to take it forwards. How much is Harmon, how much is Sony, very hard to tell but the show got worse. Is it because it had the same budget, better paid actors so they did far fewer big scenes, walking around campus, multiple stories in multiple locations? Maybe, did Sony hack the budget back, or did Harmon pocket the money, or simply did Harmon do what so many writers do, try to push the boat, and fail miserably.

As for being creative..... he was and he utterly wasn't, ultimately he ripped the story line of the entire first and most of the second series by simply copying cult films. It's both original.... and very easy, it meant half the writing was done for him, translating the idea's to the campus was easy. The idea for Community was great, the writing in the first season was great, but creators don't always make the best showrunners.

He's mostly changed the characters to be very one dimensional, the locations/style of episodes has changed almost completely and its just not as good.

A new runner with the mandate to make season 4 like season 1 with some fresh writers could be epic, a new runner with the mandate to make a chip as possible short series with as few extra characters as possible could be completely awful.

For anyone that hasn't watched Happy Endings though, its a really freaking good show, like really good. I'd rate both series of it above series 3 of Community.


It can end up as anything, but I won't judge it till well, I watch it. Hoping for the best though, very good cast(though it could happily lose Shirley), deserves a great last series(if it ends up being the last).

I've read multiple things about Harmon being difficult and frankly the whole Chevy incident just screams he's that kind of person. Anyone could see he was purposefully writing Chevy as a more and more ridiculous character to embarrass Chevy, ultimately thats why I think him going could be the right move, when you harm the show to pee off a character who had previously been brilliant.... you're doing something very very wrong. If you didn't want him on the show to start with, too late, boo hoo, get over it, he was great casting by the network and a great character, ruining that because you get a bit big headed and want to force him off the show, rather than utilising a character who was great is utterly ridiculous.
 
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I loved this series but I agree, at the end it became lacking in certain qualities that it started with.

After the chevy arguements and the break in the season with it almost being canned I think season 4 is going to fart about in the air and flop about on the floor like an untied balloon.

I'll give it a chance though.
 
#sixseasonsandamovie please.

But only if the episodes go back to the season 1/early season 2 style. Recent episodes have been far too focused on one thing, and I think the storyline is weak. I think the character development has been quite excellent though.
 
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