Community Shield spoiler

Big Kev · 11 Aug 2003 at 12:47

All in all, it was not an important game, I wasn't bothered when we won it last year and I'm not bothered that we've lost it this year, as my absence from the stadium testifies.

Lets just get on with the new season and stop bickering over this waste of time.

Cemetery · 11 Aug 2003 at 14:54

I cannot see any real bickering & was enjoying the good natured discussion which I was happy to see had not broken down at any point, almost like times of old.

So continuing

it appears that the FA may well be looking into the Cole & Campbell incidents after all & they may get reds cards following that.

andi · 11 Aug 2003 at 15:39

I hope so, Cole's was definetly worth a yellow at least, campbells wasnt as bad, but still punishable..

Gilly · 11 Aug 2003 at 16:38

On a slightly different tangent, is everyone of the opinion that red cards given in pre-season matches should count towards league matches?

The community shield is an FA match so I'm not surprised that any in that count when the league arrives, but in a match arranged between 2 teams if someone gets sent off surely it shouldn't count?

Gooner14 · 11 Aug 2003 at 16:55

Originally posted by Gilly
On a slightly different tangent, is everyone of the opinion that red cards given in pre-season matches should count towards league matches?

The community shield is an FA match so I'm not surprised that any in that count when the league arrives, but in a match arranged between 2 teams if someone gets sent off surely it shouldn't count?

Yep, particularly when some refs send players off, then others order them off (to be subbed), or don't submit reports on it!

Gilly · 11 Aug 2003 at 16:58

Originally posted by Gooner14
Yep, particularly when some refs send players off, then others order them off (to be subbed), or don't submit reports on it!

You think that red cards in friendlies arranged by the club (meaning the club sets them up and chooses to play them) and aren't in any way affiliated to the FA should count in FA matches?

Why?

Gooner14 · 11 Aug 2003 at 18:41

Originally posted by Gilly
You think that red cards in friendlies arranged by the club (meaning the club sets them up and chooses to play them) and aren't in any way affiliated to the FA should count in FA matches?

Why?

No

Prehaps I didn't explain!

As I see it:

Bookings/Sendings off in the FA Cup should only count in the FA Cup. The same in the league, League only not Cup. (Basically the way European games work)

Friendlies shouldn't count. It's like me being sent off this Saturday in a local game in the park, and not being able to make my debut at Cambridge next week!!

JAzz · 11 Aug 2003 at 19:21

Originally posted by Cemetery
it appears that the FA may well be looking into the Cole & Campbell incidents after all & they may get reds cards following that.

Why don't they just give em the 3 match bans now, it will save us from waiting......

Gooner14 · 11 Aug 2003 at 19:27

Originally posted by Cemetery
So continuing it appears that the FA may well be looking into the Cole & Campbell incidents after all & they may get reds cards following that.

This really really annoys me.

Last season how many times did we hear We have to wait for the refs report. But when it's Arsenal, the FA speak up the next day.

I'm sure the rules state that once the ref has seen the indicent then player can't be punished (basically saying the ref can't be judged to be wrong) So therefore Cole can't be done.

However remember Bergy, the ref waved play on (west ham, elbow on Bowyer) yet he was still done.

I suggest the FA deduct 20 points from AFC now! Cause I'm sure they will.

Cemetery · 11 Aug 2003 at 23:27

Originally posted by Jazz
Why don't they just give em the 3 match bans now, it will save us from waiting......

I would concurr...but think Jeffers deserves more than 3

(& dispite the smilie I am beaing serious)

In response to Gilly, I agree, I think it is a sham that reds carry into league games especially given that Yellows don't count, please show me the logic there :confused:

Gooner14, a good suggestion, I shall write to the FA with your recommendation

Gooner14 · 11 Aug 2003 at 23:30

Originally posted by Cemetery
Gooner14, a good suggestion, I shall write to the FA with your recommendation

That would still us 15 points clear at the end of the season from Spurs

Cemetery · 12 Aug 2003 at 00:03

Sad.......but true

I think instead they should dock you 20 players so we are more evenly matched for players availible

Gooner14 · 12 Aug 2003 at 00:06

Originally posted by Cemetery
Sad.......but true I think instead they should dock you 20 players so we are more evenly matched for players availible

We'd have the same amount of players then! if you take in to account the Spurs injury List!!

Cemetery · 12 Aug 2003 at 00:14

Originally posted by Gooner14
We'd have the same amount of players then we you take our the Spurs injury List!!

eh??

Gooner14 · 12 Aug 2003 at 00:18

Originally posted by Cemetery
eh??

Edited it now!! I'm sure you know what I mean't!! It' just made no sense!!

Cemetery · 12 Aug 2003 at 00:34

Indeed, am used to translating JAzz talk

However not sure if you lost 20 players you would compare even with our 20 man loss a season of injuries, we have learnt to buy in replacements

Anyhow, this thread has come to an end & may even get an archiving if I remember

Gooner14 · 12 Aug 2003 at 00:36

Originally posted by Cemetery
Indeed, am used to translating JAzz talk

That's an insult

Beef · 12 Aug 2003 at 11:06

Just saw the game... missed it live

WOW! scholes was amazzzzzzzzzzing what was with all the party tricks! you don't often see that... pure skill!

JAzz · 12 Aug 2003 at 19:15

Originally posted by Cemetery
Indeed, am used to translating JAzz talk

OI!

atpbx · 12 Aug 2003 at 20:18

Originally posted by Cemetery
I would concurr...but think Jeffers deserves more than 3 (& dispite the smilie I am beaing serious)

In response to Gilly, I agree, I think it is a sham that reds carry into league games especially given that Yellows don't count, please show me the logic there

Gooner14, a good suggestion, I shall write to the FA with your recommendation

Only the straight reds count, yellows, and two yellows to red wouldnt carry over, its part of the "friendly" "charitable" aspect of the match.
if Campell and Cole had got second yellows it wouldnt of matter for the start fo the season.