Completely lost, i need a new camera but dont know where to start....

MrRockliffe · 30 May 2018 at 20:52

MichaelAwkward said:
You don't need a viewfinder on such a compact camera with a standard zoom range. It's only really necassary on the RX10s and even then gets limited use.

I disagree - purely from a sunlight perspective. The screen on the RX100 isn't bright enough in Spain, for example, to see what you're taking a photo of.

Glacius · 30 May 2018 at 20:53

I work for Canon and we get a good staff discount on Camera/Lenses, in the region of 40% so do let me know if that may help.

MichaelAwkward · 30 May 2018 at 20:58

MrRockliffe said:
I disagree - purely from a sunlight perspective. The screen on the RX100 isn't bright enough in Spain, for example, to see what you're taking a photo of.

Photos taken in bright sunlight are rarely worth taking... so...

MrRockliffe · 30 May 2018 at 21:04

MichaelAwkward said:
Photos taken in bright sunlight are rarely worth taking... so...

He's going on holiday so that's going to be tricky...

MichaelAwkward · 30 May 2018 at 21:06

MrRockliffe said:
He's going on holiday so that's going to be tricky...

wut. Where's he going on holiday? The sun?

MrRockliffe · 30 May 2018 at 21:12

MichaelAwkward said:
wut. Where's he going on holiday? The sun?

You're saying that if you're in bright sunlight, there's no point having a viewfinder as photos aren't worth taking anyway.

If you're on holiday, you're going to be spending a lot of time in said conditions surely? Or do you go on holiday to the dark side of the moon?

MichaelAwkward · 30 May 2018 at 21:18

MrRockliffe said:
You're saying that if you're in bright sunlight, there's no point having a viewfinder as photos aren't worth taking anyway.

If you're on holiday, you're going to be spending a lot of time in said conditions surely? Or do you go on holiday to the dark side of the moon?

When I'm on holiday I make an effort to get out with my camera when the light is interesting - during sunrise/sunset or due to weather conditions. I don't spend the entire day creating unremarkable photos with an overhead sun, which is why most people's holiday photos are exactly that, unremarkable. I'd rather spend the day time enjoying my holiday doing holiday things. If I am taking photos during the day of something interesting, it's probably not out in direct sunlight, and if it is I'll try and come back when the light isn't as harsh.

Another reason why they're unremarkable is because they think they need a viewfinder, or a DSLR, or all these lenses. Light is far more important than the camera, and an overhead sun blazing down creates the worst lighting possible.

MrRockliffe · 30 May 2018 at 21:34

MichaelAwkward said:
When I'm on holiday I make an effort to get out with my camera when the light is interesting - during sunrise/sunset or due to weather conditions. I don't spend the entire day creating unremarkable photos with an overhead sun, which is why most people's holiday photos are exactly that, unremarkable. I'd rather spend the day time enjoying my holiday doing holiday things. If I am taking photos during the day of something interesting, it's probably not out in direct sunlight, and if it is I'll try and come back when the light isn't as harsh.

Another reason why they're unremarkable is because they think they need a viewfinder, or a DSLR, or all these lenses. Light is far more important than the camera, and an overhead sun blazing down creates the worst lighting possible.

You're assuming he wants to be taking fancy pants photos that have perfect lighting etc. What if he just wants to take photos?

MichaelAwkward · 30 May 2018 at 21:39

MrRockliffe said:
You're assuming he wants to be taking fancy pants photos that have perfect lighting etc. What if he just wants to take photos?

Then he doesn't need a dedicated camera as any smartphone will probably suffice.

It's not about waiting for perfect lighting - just different lighting. Direct sunlight creates flat, dull photos.

MrRockliffe · 30 May 2018 at 21:47

MichaelAwkward said:
Direct sunlight creates flat, dull photos.

I've not experienced that - most photos I took in Spain (an my recent trip to London during the heat wave) were during direct sunlight, and they're not flat or dull. Certainly would have been nice to have a viewfinder though to see what I'm taking a photo of and to help line things up properly.