Completing games

I do wonder sometimes if achievements are a generational thing. The oldies among us, myself included, who grew up playing games in the 80s find them tedious/pointless, while the younger generation for whom games have nearly always had them built in (can't really remember when they started becoming popular to be honest) find them an essential part of the experience?

Discuss :)

I'm an oldie (in gaming terms anyway ;)) and love achievements. It gives an extra layer to games you really enjoy once you have finished the main story and pushes you to try something a bit different to the norm.

A good example is Unmechanical. It's a cracking little puzzle game that took about 3 hours to complete, and I've spent another couple of hours going back to unlock more of the achievements. Without them I would never have gone back.
 
Warning: Mammoth, rambling, unfocused post ahoy!
always complete games, unless there stupidly hard/dont like - currently churning through sleeping dogs, and completed farcry 3 before that.

the act of completing a game is easier than most people think and you can kinda churn through most games in less time then many online peps say. (bc they always overestimate!)

you just need to actually bother trying.

Someone earlier in the thread said "Why buy a game and not complete it? Surely that's wasting money" I'd just as soon counter "Why buy a game, then pressure yourself to rush through to the arbirtrary end point without actually thoroughly enjoying it? Surely that's wasting money"

Now obviously that varies by game, but I can't think of many games where the above approach of "churning through" the game doesn't end up being a lesser experience (in my eyes, obviously, I'm certainly not claiming this is true for everyone!).

I suppose it depends what it's being compared to. If it's 6 hours to spam through a game at full speed, see half the content, but complete the 'story' portion compared to 6 hours playing at your own pace, seeing all the content up to a point but stopping at halfway through because you lost interest, then I can see that the speed version gives a more 'complete' game.

In my case, the better comparison would probably be 6 hours of main story hammering, compared to 6 hourse of whimsical messing about, a two month break, another 30 minutes at random, another month's break, then at some point getting back into it for the remaining 10-12 hours and feeling it's been solidly completed.

Example:I recently picked back up Fallout New Vegas, originally started a year or two ago - my character now has all the companions, has finished the majority of the optional/side quests I've found, explored 90%+ of the map, 100% completed three of the DLC's and is partway through the 4th, and when he returns to the wasteland has the final "big decision" missions approaching rapidly. Now in order to 'complete' F:NV in my own estimation, I'd really have to do it three times over (minimum) with different character builds (intelligent gunslinger, stupid melee, evil energy weapons specialist etc) and different choices as there are multiple quests where you can only choose one branch, as well as a wide variety of endings. I'd also need to look at mods - there are HUNDREDS of amazing ones for NV, and I know people who'd consider not at least dabbling in them to mean you'd not got the most out of the game. For another person, looking up a min/max build online before starting, skipping all optional quests, clicking through all quest text/cutscenes, using fast travel whenever possible and making it to one possible ending would consider that 'finishing the game'. That's why most people would say Fallout New Vegas takes ~80-100 hours to complete, but if you know what you're doing you could see the end credits in probably 4-5 at most.

There are loads more examples. In Borderlands 2, I've done two playthroughs (main quest plus DLC) with a single character, but the game has five characters with at least three main builds each, plus I've not had a max-level character. Have I completed it? An additional DLC has come out since and I've not been back to it. Does that change whether it's complete?

I guess in order to try and address the OP's question (at long last) I'd say that a game is "complete" when I decide I'm not going back to it for long enough that I stick it in the 'inactive' steam category or uninstall it (PC) or put the box on a shelf rather than in the thing next to the TV (PS3). In that sense I reckon I've completed more than half the games I own.

Some (COD:MW2, BF:BC2, Arkham City, Assassin's Creed 2, Vice City, Fallout 3) that means not just completing the single player, but going through loads of the optional missions/achievements or doing loads of multiplayer.

Some it means finishing the story (usually the story led games like Portal 1+2, HL series, SpecOps the line, Borderlands 2 (for now) but also some action ones like Space Marine, Bastion, the Uncharted games, Fable series)

Some it means I've played them a LOT but just haven't put the time in to finish them, as in my New Vegas example, and will come back later (Skyrim, Mafia 2, Guild Wars 2)

Others I just got fed up with (Vanquish on PS3 - too willfuly confusing to really lose myself in. GTA 4 on PC - too horribly ported and grim to bother with. Street fighter 4 on PS3 - just didn't find I enjoyed it) - those I wouldn't call completed, but I'd happily say I'm unlikely to go back to them and therefore they are the only really 'uncompleted' category - the rest just aren't completed YET!

And still others will never, really, be totally 'completed' in my eyes (Titan Quest: Immortal Throne, Counter-Strike, WoW, Civilisation games, guitar hero type games, and I suspect Borderlands 2 may creep into this category over time)
 
Mafia 1's ending is amazing, if you've tried 3 times then the ending will probably bring a tear to your eye, it did for me. then play Mafia 2 to understand how it all links in ;)

On another note I used to finish games to completion, last but one was probably in fact Mafia 2 about 2 years ago as I loved it, the last one was Dishonoured as it was similarly amazing :)

:D I finished Mafia 2 on the ps3 almost as soon as it was out (traded it in a week alter for fifa12) . Forgot to add it to the list, good game but it was done in 15 hours which was poor.
 
I like to complete all the games I buy but I'll make an exception if it becomes more of a chore than pleasurable. These days most of the games I play are either at the extreme of being SP adventures, 10-20 hours and thats that or MP games - 190 odd hours of BF3, same roughly for BFBC2, 600+ on record for CSS (though I reckon 1k+ :eek:) etc. I wouldn't consider either type "bad value" in the £/hour stakes
 
I prefer to finish them but it depends on a couple of things. Firstly, I have to really enjoy the game if it's over 6 hours long to be able to finish it, otherwise I'll get so far and not go back. Secondly, it depends on how many games I currently have unplayed that I want to get finished - sometimes I have too many and bounce between them all and end up completing none. An example was that I was half way through Far Cry 3, then I got Assassins Creed 3 and wanted to play that really badly, so played that and finished it but have still yet to go back to Far Cry 3 as I cba.

I'd say I finish most of the games I specifically buy... not including stuff that just came from a pack, such as I bought the Humble Bundle but only really had any interest in Legend of Grimrock and Shank 2, the others are probably just going to sit there remaining unplayed forever.
 
Depends what you class as 'completing'.

Personally, I see it as just finishing the campaign/story/whatever. I only bother with sidequests/extras if I really enjoy the game.

I usually finish the games unless they are really bad. Far Cry 2 I bought, played for 10 mins, uninstalled it, but generally, I'm tolerant.
 
I don't buy a ton of games and always intend to finish what I get. Over Christmas I've been on a mission to finish about three games. One to go as I'm nearing the end of Crysis now (I actually really like the aliens bits) then I can begin Dishonored at last.
 
Well I have a backlog of games that need completing and when I say completing I mean finishing the singleplayer part muiltplayer doesn't count in my book but anyhow

Just finished Xcom and the other day I played half life 2 all the way for a second time :)
 
Someone earlier in the thread said "Why buy a game and not complete it? Surely that's wasting money" I'd just as soon counter "Why buy a game, then pressure yourself to rush through to the arbirtrary end point without actually thoroughly enjoying it? Surely that's wasting money"

Now obviously that varies by game, but I can't think of many games where the above approach of "churning through" the game doesn't end up being a lesser experience (in my eyes, obviously, I'm certainly not claiming this is true for everyone!).

I suppose it depends what it's being compared to. If it's 6 hours to spam through a game at full speed, see half the content, but complete the 'story' portion compared to 6 hours playing at your own pace, seeing all the content up to a point but stopping at halfway through because you lost interest, then I can see that the speed version gives a more 'complete' game.

In my case, the better comparison would probably be 6 hours of main story hammering, compared to 6 hourse of whimsical messing about, a two month break, another 30 minutes at random, another month's break, then at some point getting back into it for the remaining 10-12 hours and feeling it's been solidly completed.

I think there is a middle ground, I very rarely blast through games in the shortest path (certainly not RPGs) but equally I very rarely try and 'solidly' complete games. So a game that can be blitzed in 6 hours, or steadily completed in 20hours, I'd probably spend say 12-15 hours on, doing the side-missions that take my fancy but not religiously persuing every last drop the game has to offer. Where open world games are concerned I normally adopt a geographical approach to choosing my next mission, I tackle those nearby (or where several are grouped in the same location) regardless of whether they are side/primary missions or whatever.

I'd say that a game is "complete" when I decide I'm not going back to it for long enough that I stick it in the 'inactive' steam category or uninstall it (PC)

For me a game is never complete until I beat the main story, I've got some games that I haven't played in over 10 years but I still don't class them as complete. I've got a stockpile of 5+ year old savegames, some of which I'd like to return to one day if I get time. I have a Steam category for inactive games too "Old / In Progress", but that is seperate from "Completed" as there is a distinction in my eyes - plus of course a "Rubbish" category for games I have no intention of going back to.

[as an aside, a real pet hate of mine is that Steam doesn't seem to offer an easy way to manage categories against multiple items, you have to do them one-by-one - pretty appalling from a UI perspective]
 
[as an aside, a real pet hate of mine is that Steam doesn't seem to offer an easy way to manage categories against multiple items, you have to do them one-by-one - pretty appalling from a UI perspective]


Quoted For Truth. It's an element of steam I'd like to see improved. Maybe I'll drop by the steam forums this weekend and see if there's a thread about it, or start one.

I also find it annoying that it's not easy to sort the categories - one of my categories is "Stuff I never intend to look at/play again in the near future and don't want in the main list". In order to have it appear AFTER the main steam list, I named it "zz hidden" thinking I was being alphabetically cunning - it's appearing as the second in the list but still before the main games list.

I can minimise it, but then about 1 in 5 logins it will un-minimise and need shrinking again. Most odd.
 
Generally I always complete the story of games even if I don't think it's that good at the time, but never 100% complete in terms of pointless so called 'achievements'. Never once gone out of my way to do that in game.
 
I have played Borderlands 2 for 40 hours and not quite finished the main questline, maybe I won't but it doesn't feel like a rip off.

For me getting my money's worth doesn't equate to finishing the game but just getting my money's worth.

Saying that this year my Xmas Steam spend has been a lot lower than normal due to having a decent backlog I can work through.
 
Generally I always complete the story of games even if I don't think it's that good at the time, but never 100% complete in terms of pointless so called 'achievements'. Never once gone out of my way to do that in game.

Hmm, I don't think I've done it just for the achievement (i.e. for the electronic tick-box "you did it"), but I have gone back and done more purely because an 'achivement' highlighted that it was possible - I tend to think of them as giving you either hints for new ways to approach a game, or throwing down the gauntlet of a challenge that sounds fun once you've read it.

Example: New Vegas bugged - I didn't get the "reach level 10" achievement. (despite having the level 20, 30, 40 equivalents). I'm not going to make a new character to level 10 just to get it.

Example 2: Plants Vs Zombies has achieves for, for eaxmple, finishing a night mission without using mushrooms (night-level-specific-units) which I did specificallty attempt, because it sounded like an interesting limitation to give yourself.
 
I completed Half Life 2 the other night and thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm about to start Lost Coast and then play Episodes 1 & 2. :D

The thing is, with truly great games I always feel a bit deflated once I finish them. It's why I tend to like sandbox games. :)

LOL @ Zelda 3 by the way, I've completed that about 8 times now. Amazing game!
 
I would say that i always set out to complete a game. With call of duty and Halo, i always play the campaign all the way through before i even touch online. It just often annoys me that people will buy a cracking game like Halo4 just for online, they miss out on so much.
 
I'm a completionist so I have to finish a game or I can't stop playing it. It's good because I usually can't buy new games when they first come out because I'm still trying to finish the last one so I can wait until the new games are patched up and actually work (and perform!) properly, also sometimes means I get them cheaper.

A game has to be really really bad for me to not want to finish it. Nowadays I read lots of reviews and user comments so that I can avoid games that would frustrate me e.g. AC3, Hitman Absolution etc. so virtually every game I buy I finish, e.g. I was really looking forward to Dishonored (my game of 2012) before Christmas but I did not even install it until I finished Mark of the Ninja.
 
Finished? Started? Some of us have games we've yet to install! :D

I'll high five that one :)

I have quite a few games on steam, I have no hope of completing them all. Some I wouldn't want to. Then there are games that will suck up thousands of hours. Lord of the rings online is at 2000+ hours and I've only been playing it 7 months, not sure you could ever class it as being complete :p

I have loads still to play, but it doesn't stop me spending 30 quid in the sales and picking up (ac2 deluxe, batman ac + aa goty, containment, driver san fran, dungeons of dredmor complete, renegade ops, silverfall + earth awakening, spec ops, splintercell chaos theory and ys origin).
That 30 quid is already value for money for me, since I've already got a lot of playtime from those and many many more hours to come. I'm all set to the next sale.

Then there are games that cost absolutely nothing, and have soaked up a loads of hours like Path of Exile. I've also just got a key for dota2. There just aren't enough gaming hours in the day! :D
 
In my younger days i used to be able to pick up any game and play it days on end, nowadays it takes a lot for a game to catch my attention.
 
I only completed a couple of games last year

Dishonored
Diablo 3


My god it's less than i thought :|Thats disgusting, purchased well over 15 games last year too.
 
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