Condensation on toilet.

Biohazard · 31 Jan 2013 at 21:38

I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing petrol.. I am also thoroughly ashamed of myself after this thread.

Such lows...

Mickie · 31 Jan 2013 at 21:42

Gammawolf said:
You're the one that's using words which you don't know the meaning of, not me.

You see this? It means that in your view, the reason for OP's problem given the information in his post is that he has damp in his walls. Given every other cause for condensation on his cistern, you have selected "a damp problem in your walls" as having the greatest chance for creating this. This is simply flawed on so many levels, as agreed up by everyone else in this thread besides you.

stop being childish, yes i know the meaning..

i have said i agree with other views that its caused by normal humidity levels and cold toilets but i have also added my bit having read the rest, why then would i be a sheep and give the same advise knowing what i know..

how can you argue with my case ? that it could be a problem the op has even though he hasnt gave much detail of the problem..

going with the trend does not make the cause of the op's problem the only one.. why wont you accept this ?

Mickie · 31 Jan 2013 at 21:44

Biohazard said:
Unless you stand by the obvious logical extension (sarcasm) that moisture on a toilet could signify damp. Without other signs, it does not.

But we've done this, and you're contorting yourself inside out. Just forget it.

If you read what I and others have been saying to you, you wouldn't be asking stupid questions.

why wont you answer the question ? do damp walls cause dampness ? simple yes or no

Biohazard · 31 Jan 2013 at 21:45

Mickie said:
knowing what i know..

What do you know, Mickie?

Biohazard · 31 Jan 2013 at 21:47

Mickie said:
why wont you answer the question ? do damp walls cause dampness ? simple yes or no

Well because you are now asking a different question? :confused:

You asked this;

Mickie said:
do you not get that condensation comes from more than just human habitation ?

do you not get that ? yes or no ?

I was hinting at the fact that I've spent three days explaining this very premise to you, Mickie.

Biohazard · 31 Jan 2013 at 21:48

You blow my mind Mickie.

Mickie · 31 Jan 2013 at 21:48

Biohazard said:
What do you know, Mickie?

i know you're stubborn and wont stop till you have your last say, to make everyone reading think damp walls does not cause higher levels of humidity and condensation clinging to cold surfaces

Mickie · 31 Jan 2013 at 21:50

Biohazard said:
Well because you are now asking a different question?

You asked this;

I was hinting at the fact that I've spent three days explaining this very premise to you, Mickie.

you havent, you're lying..

you wont accept that rising damp causes higher levels of humidity and condensation..

malfunkshun · 31 Jan 2013 at 21:50

Mickie said:
why wont you answer the question ? do damp walls cause dampness ? simple yes or no

Surely damp walls are caused by dampness. Having said that I have a moist wall upstairs but it isn't a damp problem (condensation on an exterior wall and is costing me £1900 to sort at the end of February

)

Biohazard · 31 Jan 2013 at 21:51

Mickie said:
i know you're stubborn and wont stop till you have your last say, to make everyone reading think damp walls does not cause higher levels of humidity and condensation clinging to cold surfaces

/last say

Biohazard · 31 Jan 2013 at 21:52

Mickie said:
you havent, you're lying..

lol

Mickie said:
you wont accept that rising damp causes higher levels of humidity and condensation..

I think you'll find I have, just that I don't think it's applicable until the OP clarifies damp else where.

Mickie · 31 Jan 2013 at 21:53

Biohazard said:
No one has said it is 'normal', after all what is that defined as exactly, but that it can be expected.

Even your own link outlines as such.

my link explains how rising damp, lack of insulation and leaks can cause humidity and condensation to go up.

Biohazard · 31 Jan 2013 at 21:53

Mickie said:
my link explains how rising damp, lack of insulation and leaks can cause humidity and condensation to go up.

Uhuh. It also explains how it is naturally occurring, and lifestyle and other inputs have an effect.

Mickie · 31 Jan 2013 at 21:55

just accept that it could be a cause and move on.. why has it come to this ?

Biohazard · 31 Jan 2013 at 21:55

Mickie said:
just accept that it could be a cause and move on.. why has it come to this ?

Westminster Rule?

I'm away for a cheeseburger.

Gammawolf · 31 Jan 2013 at 21:56

Mickie said:
i have said i agree with other views that its caused by normal humidity levels and cold toilets

Ah but you see, this is in direct conflict with the first thing you said that:

Mickie said:
you probably have a damp problem in your walls

Which is what was incorrect.

Mickie said:
you havent, you're lying..

you wont accept that rising damp causes higher levels of humidity and condensation..

No one is saying that rising damp doesn't increase humidity. It's just not relevant to OP's situation until he provides information to contradict this.

Mickie · 31 Jan 2013 at 22:03

Gammawolf said:
Ah but you see, this is in direct conflict with the first thing you said that:

Which is what was incorrect.

No one is saying that rising damp doesn't increase humidity. It's just not relevant to OP's situation until he provides information to contradict this.

so you're saying what he has which is a dripping toilet because of cold water and normal humidity levels makes it drip ? and wont accept it could be something else ?

strange, i have normal levels like so many other people and very cold water but my toilet doesnt drip..

cant you see why i've thought it could, maybe, probably be something else causing it to drip ?

dont call me a ****ing idiot for trying to help..

accept what ive said and move on, stop attacking me

Deleted member 651465 · 31 Jan 2013 at 22:27

When did the OP get a damp problem? :confused:

No one is saying damp won't lead to exaccerbated condensation problems, but why jump to conclusions about the OPs situation, then spend 3+ pages forcing your opinion as fact?

He'd be best served to **** on the seat than suffer the agony of this thread.

Mickie · 31 Jan 2013 at 22:35

EVH said:
When did the OP get a damp problem?

No one is saying damp won't lead to exaccerbated condensation problems, but why jump to conclusions about the OPs situation, then spend 3+ pages forcing your opinion as fact?

He'd be best served to **** on the seat than suffer the agony of this thread.

I haven't jumped, i said it could be a cause..

I haven't forced my opinion, i have only defended my case.

Gammawolf · 31 Jan 2013 at 22:40

Mickie said:
so you're saying what he has which is a dripping toilet because of cold water and normal humidity levels makes it drip ? and wont accept it could be something else ?

What I'm saying is that there are far more probable causes than "damp walls".
Having several people in a household can do this. Increased humidity due to a higher density of people. Increased usage of the toilet means a higher frequency of water changes, so a dramatically lower average temperature since water has such a high specific heat capacity. More showers means a longer period in which humidity is extremely high. Winter weather and heating can cause this. Cold water inputs can cause this. And mixed together in varying degrees can cause varying degrees of condensation.

All these activities are normal and are more likely in any given household than "damp walls".

No one is disputing the fact that theoretically if one had rising damp, then this would exacerbate a condensation problem on a cistern. But to jump straight to the conclusion that "you probably have a damp problem in your walls" given that OP has not mentioned anything about damp walls is an insult to the OP and incorrect. He would be posting about damp walls if he had damp walls.

Condensation on toilet.

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