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ConLake Returns - Golden Sample 8700K's.

What amuses me is that such an extensive comparison was needed to refute the absurd claim by Linus.

All review samples from all companies in all industries are cherry picked and tested by the manufacturer before being sent for review. It's common sense.
 
Linus Tech Tips like most established reviewers are clueless, they could not do any objective investigative journalism if their lives depended on it.

Another excellent video by AdoredTV.
 
They were all over the review sites/videos.
Jim has pretty much no proof no base this video on yet he runs it up the flag pole.

Guess my 5.1 retail is a binned unit too :rolleyes:

Not watched vid , Only 4+ I remember were 1800's which is why I asked for a link.

So your 8700 runs on 5.1 @ full load without de-lid/water cooling ? Impressive if true
There are a few threads where some cant do 4.8 stable , luck of silicone I guess

WARNING He's just here to trash the thread ^^^^ its what he does.

I was genuinely asking as the ones I saw where of the 1800 being tested
 
So with AdoredTV's analysis, we are statistically seeing around 80% of the tech press as having received the top 20% performing 8700K CPU's...
It's also interesting to see that the chances of us getting a Golden Sample 8700K is 3%, yet the tech press seems to have gotten very lucky :p
 
The only problem I have with his analysis is that he assumes that if a non-delidded chip can do 5.1 GHz, it'll do 5.2 GHz when delidded. That doesn't make any sense since the chip might be voltage limited rather than temperature limited. He does partially address this though when he takes the "worst case scenario" stance at the end, and he does at least talk about the different voltages each had to use. There are definitely some chips in that bunch that would easily qualify for "golden sample" status.
 
The only problem I have with his analysis is that he assumes that if a non-delidded chip can do 5.1 GHz, it'll do 5.2 GHz when delidded. That doesn't make any sense since the chip might be voltage limited rather than temperature limited. He does partially address this though when he takes the "worst case scenario" stance at the end, and he does at least talk about the different voltages each had to use. There are definitely some chips in that bunch that would easily qualify for "golden sample" status.

Its actually the reason the whole Delinding Intel CPU's exists as an industry, with tools for it and even dedicated websites, golden samples are limited by thermals to reach those extra 200Mhz.
 
I would have been more shocked if he had found no evidence of binning...

Its kind of obvious, of course the press receive good chips - not only that... but sometimes these good chips land in the hands of random customers as well..
Who would have thought :p
 
Silicon lottery results
As of 11/11/17, the top 6% of tested 8700Ks were able to hit 5.3GHz or greater. (1.437V Vcore , -2 AVX Offset)

As of 3/22/18, the top 3% of tested 8700Ks were able to hit 5.3GHz or greater.

As of 11/11/17, the top 30% of tested 8700Ks were able to hit 5.2GHz or greater. (1.425V Vcore , -2 AVX Offset)

As of 3/22/18, the top 22% of tested 8700Ks were able to hit 5.2GHz or greater.

Ryzen 7 1700
93% reach 3.8GHz @ 1.376V
70% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.408V
20% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.440V

Ryzen 7 1700X
100% reach 3.8GHz @ 1.360V
77% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.392V
33% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.424V

Ryzen 7 1800X
100% reach 3.8GHz (assumed)
97% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.376V
67% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.408V
20% reach 4.1GHz @ 1.440V


Both intel and AMD are guilty of sending binned CPUs to reviewers. There a very few here that have a 1700 doing 4ghz yet a ton of reviewers on launch showing 4.0 was easy.
Same applies to the 8700k. Its just another clickbait video from Jim, nothing to see here.
 
Silicon lottery results
As of 11/11/17, the top 6% of tested 8700Ks were able to hit 5.3GHz or greater. (1.437V Vcore , -2 AVX Offset)

As of 3/22/18, the top 3% of tested 8700Ks were able to hit 5.3GHz or greater.

As of 11/11/17, the top 30% of tested 8700Ks were able to hit 5.2GHz or greater. (1.425V Vcore , -2 AVX Offset)

As of 3/22/18, the top 22% of tested 8700Ks were able to hit 5.2GHz or greater.

Ryzen 7 1700
93% reach 3.8GHz @ 1.376V
70% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.408V
20% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.440V

Ryzen 7 1700X
100% reach 3.8GHz @ 1.360V
77% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.392V
33% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.424V

Ryzen 7 1800X
100% reach 3.8GHz (assumed)
97% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.376V
67% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.408V
20% reach 4.1GHz @ 1.440V


Both intel and AMD are guilty of sending binned CPUs to reviewers. There a very few here that have a 1700 doing 4ghz yet a ton of reviewers on launch showing 4.0 was easy.
Same applies to the 8700k. Its just another clickbait video from Jim, nothing to see here.

Well first of all where is your data to backup those claims?

Second, 3.9 to 4Ghz was what was commonly achieved by reviewers, so while there is no reason to think AMD didn't send binned samples, perhaps they did, your own number suggest they didn't, do you want to rethink it? your numbers say 67 to 97% reach 3.9 to 4Ghz...
 
Well first of all where is your data to backup those claims?

Second, 3.9 to 4Ghz was what was commonly achieved by reviewers, so while there is no reason to think AMD didn't send binned samples, perhaps they did, your own number suggest they didn't, do you want to rethink it? your numbers say 67 to 97% reach 3.9 to 4Ghz...

You've purchased a good value decent performing computer processor and ryzen has plus points, we get it. You're constantly arguing with someone who has owed both, are you ok?
 
Who cares if they send binned cpus to reviewers? All the reviewers cpus are binned therefore they all look equally better than they should. :p this has been the case forever.
 
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