Conroe E6600 Temps?
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Bios reports 26C idle / 50C Load... Just tried a program on another thread which reports temps for each core... 42C idle and 62C Load... Why are they so different ? 
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/Hidden_Stuff/CoreTemp.zip
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/Hidden_Stuff/CoreTemp.zip
Because measuring temps using the Bios and other utilities is the most unreliable cloud chasing thing you can do!! 
To quote an article I read about this:- "You shouldn't even ask what someone else's temps are. This is one of the biggest problems I see in forums. YOUR temps are not even accurate relative to your own system, much less someone else's.
Let me elaborate: Just because your board reads 41ºC, it does not mean that if the temps drop 5ºC in real life the board will read 36ºC. Motherboard temperature sensors are not "absolutely accurate", nor are they "relatively" accurate."
Trying to compare them to others rigs is just making the whole situation worse!
At best these temp monitors etc are just a point of reference useful for your own rig to, for example, compare how effective different coolers are or how different case fan configurations affect YOUR machine temps.
I used to do exactly what others and you are doing, which is ask what temps they're getting with similar rigs etc. There are so many factors that can impact on others temps - case, fans, ambient temps, bios version, near a window etc etc. All you end up doing is getting stressed and puzzled! And that's before you even factor in people lying about their temps... (They do you know...)
If your comp is stable, then what are you worrying about. These chips soon shut themselves down if they get too hot, and most temps I've seen reported (not that you can believe them of course! ) are well below that level, even under load.
And relax......
To quote an article I read about this:- "You shouldn't even ask what someone else's temps are. This is one of the biggest problems I see in forums. YOUR temps are not even accurate relative to your own system, much less someone else's.
Let me elaborate: Just because your board reads 41ºC, it does not mean that if the temps drop 5ºC in real life the board will read 36ºC. Motherboard temperature sensors are not "absolutely accurate", nor are they "relatively" accurate."
Trying to compare them to others rigs is just making the whole situation worse!
At best these temp monitors etc are just a point of reference useful for your own rig to, for example, compare how effective different coolers are or how different case fan configurations affect YOUR machine temps.
I used to do exactly what others and you are doing, which is ask what temps they're getting with similar rigs etc. There are so many factors that can impact on others temps - case, fans, ambient temps, bios version, near a window etc etc. All you end up doing is getting stressed and puzzled! And that's before you even factor in people lying about their temps... (They do you know...)
If your comp is stable, then what are you worrying about. These chips soon shut themselves down if they get too hot, and most temps I've seen reported (not that you can believe them of course!
) are well below that level, even under load.And relax......
Is anyone using Q-fan in the bios? I find if its turned on my cpu runs at about 57c core1/57c core2.. full load according to everest.
I turned it off and my cpu fans rpm runs now at 2500 rpm, this has drasticly reduced my temps and now they are so...
Only problem is Im not sure I can put up with the slight drone coming from my Freezer pro cpu cooler at that rpm.
Im sure these temps are wrong from the various reprting tools and also the bios too.
I turned it off and my cpu fans rpm runs now at 2500 rpm, this has drasticly reduced my temps and now they are so...
Only problem is Im not sure I can put up with the slight drone coming from my Freezer pro cpu cooler at that rpm.
Im sure these temps are wrong from the various reprting tools and also the bios too.
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According to Gigabyte Easytuner5, my E6400 @ 2.7GHz idles at 28 degrees, that's with an arctic freezer 7 pro. In the BIOS it say's 38 degrees.
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No, the opposite applies.Jimbo said:
Got my asus board and evo120 fan, cpu runs at 25 idle and about 32 load on stock freq. Only prob is that mo board temp is at 40 and i cant stick the fan as my cpu fan gets in the way!! Anyway fan runs at about 1500 - 1800 rpm and its
pretty quiet
pretty quiet
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To get an idea of the (internal) temperature on the die of the actual CPU cores, people should use Everest or 'Core Temp'. These numbers are taken from digital diodes that resides inside the cores themselves.
Using Everest/Core Temp, the cores on my E6600 @ 3ghz are reading around 46/47C idle, then 59/60C full load during Prime (Orthos Beta). For the same test, Speedfan/Asus PC Probe II/Bios read the CPU temp at 27/28C idle, 43/44C full load. The latter temperatures are taken from an analogue temperature diode attached to the motherboard, which I believe is situated just below where the CPU sits (i.e. this is the immediate temperature given off by the processor, outside of it).
Looking at similar threads on Xtremesystems, it appears that Conroe core temps are able to run up to 70C quite safely.
Using Everest/Core Temp, the cores on my E6600 @ 3ghz are reading around 46/47C idle, then 59/60C full load during Prime (Orthos Beta). For the same test, Speedfan/Asus PC Probe II/Bios read the CPU temp at 27/28C idle, 43/44C full load. The latter temperatures are taken from an analogue temperature diode attached to the motherboard, which I believe is situated just below where the CPU sits (i.e. this is the immediate temperature given off by the processor, outside of it).
Looking at similar threads on Xtremesystems, it appears that Conroe core temps are able to run up to 70C quite safely.
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Agreed daddyorchips, sensible comments there.
msmalls74, this is the problem with a lot of temps. IF you're motherboard is really reading 40, it's fairly unlikely that your CPU is 8 to 15 degrees cooler with air cooling.
The CoreTemp program mentioned in the post above should be more accurate, but as I've already said, I think we worry too much!
I had my chip priming at a reported (By Coretemp) 66c overnight, and it was fine. In my case though, Probe II was reporting over 73c at the same time! I know people worry about the life of the chip being reduced, but I think it was designed with this in mind. And there's always the warranty anyway!
My thoughts are that even though these chips are built on a 65nm process, have low voltage requirements, and are clocked lower than netburst chips (at stock anyway), they do a lot more 'work', and that work must generate heat, as nothings for free!
msmalls74, this is the problem with a lot of temps. IF you're motherboard is really reading 40, it's fairly unlikely that your CPU is 8 to 15 degrees cooler with air cooling.
The CoreTemp program mentioned in the post above should be more accurate, but as I've already said, I think we worry too much!
I had my chip priming at a reported (By Coretemp) 66c overnight, and it was fine. In my case though, Probe II was reporting over 73c at the same time! I know people worry about the life of the chip being reduced, but I think it was designed with this in mind. And there's always the warranty anyway!
My thoughts are that even though these chips are built on a 65nm process, have low voltage requirements, and are clocked lower than netburst chips (at stock anyway), they do a lot more 'work', and that work must generate heat, as nothings for free!
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One thing to be aware of is that the solder used to attach the IHS to the core starts to melt at 77C to 85C. So the core throttling point has got to be lower.
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Took your advice and used core temp 0.9, Temps on pc are about 44 idle and get upto 48 when doing torture test on prime 95. Seems to be more sensible, board temp is still at 40 ish. CPU is on a slight overclock at 2.6 Ghz
@ jimbo
i have the same problem as well, whne i turn onn the q-fan using the performance profile, my chassis fans rotate about 1100rpm at most and my cpu fan rotate about 500rpm.
when its off they rotate at full throttle like your self?
i wouldnt mind just getting the cpu fan jusy to rotate about 1000rpm
whats your q-fan profile?
thanks
i have the same problem as well, whne i turn onn the q-fan using the performance profile, my chassis fans rotate about 1100rpm at most and my cpu fan rotate about 500rpm.
when its off they rotate at full throttle like your self?
i wouldnt mind just getting the cpu fan jusy to rotate about 1000rpm
whats your q-fan profile?
thanks
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