Console Discussion n here !

Pumpkinstew said:
VR technology hasn't. As least not in the way that gamers would like to see.

Chips have got faster and hard drives have got bigger capacities, but that doesn't tackle the fundamental problem of intefacing within an immersive 3d virtual environment.
yes it has, the us army uses a modified aa:sf game with helmets and guns with sensors on the end, i saw it on gamer tv, i looked like it worked well and looked easily suitible to 'bring out' to *** public, but then a again, they were standing in a kind of metal shere (about 1.8m in diameter)
 
Yes a modified version but yet still not true VR.

Ok so describe your perfect console. What must it do / not do ?
 
~J~ said:
Cor crikey hilly you should be an interviewer on the tele!! :)


haha no mate, i'm just trying to get a good discussion going,

More questions asked the more people will be involved in the thread, as soon as we get loads of people in here, conversation and discussion will kick off.

Anyone picking up the Nyko intercooler for the 360 ? What games are every one looking forward too ?
 
hilly said:
haha no mate, i'm just trying to get a good discussion going,

More questions asked the more people will be involved in the thread, as soon as we get loads of people in here, conversation and discussion will kick off.

Anyone picking up the Nyko intercooler for the 360 ? What games are every one looking forward too ?

I personally cant wait for Dead Rising and Saints Row on the xbox360 :D

what about you?

Paul ...
 
hilly said:
What must it do / not do ?

It must do everything a PC doesnt do well and not do everything a PC does do well. [theres surely a loophole in that statement, but you know what i mean]

I want to stick a game in and start playing.
I want it to look good.
I dont want to spend ages waiting for it to load.
I dont want it to crash.
I dont want to spend ages fiddling around with technical rubbish.
I dont want to send emails.
I dont want to have to buy a keyboard for my console.
I dont want to have to have the best internet connection to be the best.
I dont want the hardware to diversify so that some people are at a disadvantage.
I want a level playingfield for console gamers.
I dont want content that disadvantages other users.
Patches are good, but only as long as the game works in the first place fine, and the patch only makes it faster.
Patching is not a method of getting the game out quickly and then making it.
I want to be able to take it to my mates house with one arm so that the other can be used for beer.
 
gord said:
It must do everything a PC doesnt do well and not do everything a PC does do well. [theres surely a loophole in that statement, but you know what i mean]

I want to stick a game in and start playing.
I want it to look good.
I dont want to spend ages waiting for it to load.
I dont want it to crash.
I dont want to spend ages fiddling around with technical rubbish.
I dont want to send emails.
I dont want to have to buy a keyboard for my console.
I dont want to have to have the best internet connection to be the best.
I dont want the hardware to diversify so that some people are at a disadvantage.
I want a level playingfield for console gamers.
I dont want content that disadvantages other users.
Patches are good, but only as long as the game works in the first place fine, and the patch only makes it faster.
Patching is not a method of getting the game out quickly and then making it.
I want to be able to take it to my mates house with one arm so that the other can be used for beer.
yup good points there.
I dont want my previous games from the same maker to become obsolete as long as its aviodable
I dont mind the odd sequels as long as a)there good b)theres also a lot of innnovation and something changes/is improved in the new version of *** game
 
Eliot said:
yup good points there.
I dont want my previous games from the same maker to become obsolete as long as its aviodable
I dont mind the odd sequels as long as a)there good b)theres also a lot of innnovation and something changes/is improved in the new version of *** game

Similarly.

I dont expect game developers to reinvent the wheel with each new game, but the game must be entertaining and new in some way as with literature.
 
Dead rising is the one i'm waiting for currently, my 60 died about a week ago though, so waiting for the repair.

All good points, the main one in which I agree with is the level playing field, that to me is one of the most important, purely because thats the way it should be. I don't mind different pads, but I'd hate for a keyboard and mouse to ome out for the console, thats just not what it's about.

Any one else feel dissapointed about games coming out on the 360 ?

Ok, so what about the ultimate Wii game, now you have see what It can do, what do you to play on it ?

Can you see a future for the PS3 ? Do you think the 360 will bowl it over ?
 
hilly said:
Any one else feel dissapointed about games coming out on the 360 ?

Ok, so what about the ultimate Wii game, now you have see what It can do, what do you to play on it ?

Can you see a future for the PS3 ? Do you think the 360 will bowl it over ?

They'll ALWAYS be a mixture of good/bad games on ANY console as it's down to individual tastes. A lot of people on here rave about GRAW, personally I thought it was rubbish. Likewise I thought Condemned was incredible, yet there's still a 50/50 split on it with people at the extreme level of loving or loathing it.

The more recent games; Blazing Angels, Table Tennis, Moto GP, Prey, I've really held no interest at all so haven't bought any game since Battlefield 2 about a month ago. I'm sure it'll change soon, Dead Rising is out soon (hopefully) and a few more a scheduled so it's exactly what I've said above, everyone's tastes differ and that's only a good thing.

As for the Wii, again mentioned in another thread but I can't wait to see if there are any exploring games that will allow the Wiimote to me used as a torch. I'm seriously seriously holding judgement on FPS games at the moment as I don't know how the control is going to be. It didn't take that long for me to convert from PC to Console in the FPS scene, and again, a few people on here will agree that in some games the console controls feel better than mouse. But the Wii is something new again, and whilst I've just got used to controlling movement/rotation/pitch/yaw with two thumbs, it looks like I've to go back to school to learn how to do this with ONE thumb and moving my arm in the direction I want to look. Could be the best thing since sliced bread, or could be a let down for 'pure' FPS games like Doom, Far Cry, Battlefield, etc, etc.

The best games I think for the Wii are going to be those that you simply can't achieve today. The fishing one in Zelda looks great fun, Rockstar Table Tennis would be brilliant, boxing would be incredible and of course sports games like golf (and crazy golf!!), tennis, baseball etc would enter a totally new league. Even adventure games where you've to search for things, perhaps a MASSIVE adventure like Myth where you could turn pages, look under things, push, pull, carry, drop items with the wiimote would take on a new level. All very exciting stuff.

As for the PS3. Despite the moans and digs on here, I still reckon it'll find a secure niche in the market. Sony is a household name, Microsoft is still a computer company and Nintendo still has that 'child' brand to it. It's all to do with Marketing. Microsoft do NOT advertise their product saying it's a killer console with home cinema capabilties. Nintendo do NOT advertise their product as the killer console. Sony DO advertise their console saying it's the successor to the highly successful and worldwide leading PS2 which will integrate into the home cinema, music and media systems. Straight away, they've sold it to hundreds of thousands of people who couldn't give a damn about the best games, but because it's new, expensive looking, is a Sony and fits in with their environment. Will the 360 bowl it over? No, don't think so, but I think this time Sony DO have stiff competition, maybe NEXT time Microsoft will win, but this time, no.
 
hilly said:
Dead rising is the one i'm waiting for currently, my 60 died about a week ago though, so waiting for the repair.

All good points, the main one in which I agree with is the level playing field, that to me is one of the most important, purely because thats the way it should be. I don't mind different pads, but I'd hate for a keyboard and mouse to ome out for the console, thats just not what it's about.

Any one else feel dissapointed about games coming out on the 360 ?

Ok, so what about the ultimate Wii game, now you have see what It can do, what do you to play on it ?

Can you see a future for the PS3 ? Do you think the 360 will bowl it over ?
My perfect Wii Game? Something Star Wars based with full lightsabre control.

Future for this console war? I'd say PS3 and Xbox 360 will be a lot closer matched with regards to power, sales and games than the PS2 / Xbox were, and therefore we should see a lot more quality products out there trying to outdo each console etc.

As far as the Wii is concerned, I don't see it outselling the PS3 or the Xbox 360 at all, but I do see it being a massive hit still, but it think the trouble the Wii will have is that the more naive / less clued up gamers will always see a Nintendo as a kids game system, which from some of the releases we're going to see, it certainly is not.
 
good thing about it, anyone who sees it in action will eb forced to buy one
And lucasarts have announced they are making a star wars game i believe, they would be stupid to miss out on the opportunity imo. every star wars fan would buy it lol
 
Eliot said:
good thing about it, anyone who sees it in action will eb forced to buy one
And lucasarts have announced they are making a star wars game i believe, they would be stupid to miss out on the opportunity imo. every star wars fan would buy it lol

Yup, especially if it has multiplayer :)
 
You're spot on about the PS3 ~J~. Couldn't of put it better my self. PS3 will sell, 360's will still sell, and the wii will sell. The earth will still revolve and thats the end of that.

The lightsabre game would be awesome, but personally i'm awaiting a great FPS for the wii. Where you will point and shoot the enemies at your TV. A resident evil type game would be superb.

Any one else want to ask some questions, or shall I keep firing them off ? :)
 
hilly said:
With Virtual reality only about 10 years away how will you react to this ?
VR is stupidly far away still. It won't happen anywhere near the level you describe in our lifetimes.
 
I suppose, but still it's nice to dream is it not Kreeeeeeeeee ?

Games are getting so advanced and good at the moment pretty much every scanario, well reasonable scenarios any ways are being created, take for example dead rising. Every one who has ever seen Dawn of the Dead e.t.c would have thought wow that looks like so much fun. So we are starting to see the speed and power becomming a possibility. Is there any thing in which you want to do, which hasn't been done yet ?
 
One of my best consoles was an Amiga Cd 32 lol, played zool, rise of the robots, theme park, oscar and a few other games on it. My best console was my PS1, Tomb raider 1 was an amazing game at the time and also Resident Evil 1, these are 2 of my all time favorite games. Then i got Gran Turismo 1 which at the time was a really good game with excellent gfx.

I think I'll be getting the PS3 as my brother has bought an xbox 360 already.

Mark
 
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