Console performance vs PCs over time

MrRockliffe · 21 Apr 2020 at 16:00

Hi all,

I remembered seeing a slide at some point that demonstrated how back in 2004, the original Xbox and PS2 made a big leap in performance vs PCs at the time, whereas current consoles are rather lacking in performance compared to PCs

I'd be immensely grateful if anyone that is familiar with such a slide/data sheet could post a link to it :-)

Many thanks

builder22 · 21 Apr 2020 at 16:10

or.... https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=console+vs+pc+performance+over+time&sxsrf=ALeKk00I2alOdBRuaBoB_XtM9S25CT_PhA:1587481736682&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=YYjBpgMH0ytxAM%3A%2C0x3aUyMWonuJIM%2C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSW7KRVptGw_h6L6e9D_BAAEPL2Mg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjrhIKo5vnoAhWMSRUIHXSXD1UQ9QEwAHoECAoQFg#imgrc=YYjBpgMH0ytxAM:

e: ahh slide/data sheet...hmm

MrRockliffe · 21 Apr 2020 at 16:23

builder22 said:
or.... https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=console+vs+pc+performance+over+time&sxsrf=ALeKk00I2alOdBRuaBoB_XtM9S25CT_PhA:1587481736682&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=YYjBpgMH0ytxAM%3A%2C0x3aUyMWonuJIM%2C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSW7KRVptGw_h6L6e9D_BAAEPL2Mg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjrhIKo5vnoAhWMSRUIHXSXD1UQ9QEwAHoECAoQFg#imgrc=YYjBpgMH0ytxAM:

e: ahh slide/data sheet...hmm

No that's exactly it!

Genius!!!

Lol I literally searched for the same terms and it didn't show it

builder22 · 21 Apr 2020 at 16:33

ahh good stuff

Nasher · 21 Apr 2020 at 16:38

I don't remember the xbox 360 ever outperforming a good PC. The graphics quality was never anywhere near PC level.

MrRockliffe · 21 Apr 2020 at 16:41

Nasher said:
I don't remember the xbox 360 ever outperforming a good PC. The graphics quality was never anywhere near PC level.

According to the graph, it will have been around launch. I would imagine within a few months NVIDIA will have released a new GPU that was significantly more powerful than a 360.

ecksmen · 21 Apr 2020 at 16:47

The choice of a non linear logarithmic scale feels like its been designed to suggest PC graphics grunt hasn't moved on as much leaps as consoles.

Nasher · 21 Apr 2020 at 16:49

Also how did it go backwards slightly in 2010

MrRockliffe · 21 Apr 2020 at 17:02

ecksmen said:
The choice of a non linear logarithmic scale feels like its been designed to suggest PC graphics grunt hasn't moved on as much leaps as consoles.

The slide is from NVIDIA so not sure why they'd want to imply that

mmj_uk · 21 Apr 2020 at 17:08

GPU Flops is just one of many metrics (compute) so it doesn't tell the whole story, even PC CPU's that were around back in 2013 (Bulldozer lol?) were way ahead of the PS4/Xbox One Jaguar CPU.

In some areas consoles have already surpassed PC though, ie. they have better memory architecture and better optimised operating systems. Not to mention PC GPU's and decent monitors are just a rip off now compared to consoles and 4K TV's. Next generation should go a long way towards killing off PC gaming as it'll be hard to justify the expense.

robfosters · 21 Apr 2020 at 17:19

MrRockliffe said:
According to the graph, it will have been around launch. I would imagine within a few months NVIDIA will have released a new GPU that was significantly more powerful than a 360.

360 was launch in November 2005, just a few months after the 7 series of cards launched.

Nvidia didn’t release the superb 8 series for another year.

GravyMonster · 21 Apr 2020 at 17:34

Here's a more modern version:

MrRockliffe · 21 Apr 2020 at 19:12

robfosters said:
360 was launch in November 2005, just a few months after the 7 series of cards launched.

Nvidia didn’t release the superb 8 series for another year.

Interesting - perhaps they compared it to mid range 7 series?

robfosters · 21 Apr 2020 at 19:14

MrRockliffe said:
Interesting - perhaps they compared it to mid range 7 series?

Well the PS3 GPU was based on a custom, slightly souped up 7800 GPU.

Puzzled · 21 Apr 2020 at 19:15

Spunkey said:
Here's a more modern version:

Xbox One X is a bargain then, was tempted to get one before the lockdown just to save the hassle of messing around with graphics settings on the pc trying to get things smooth.

robfosters · 21 Apr 2020 at 19:20

Spunkey said:
Here's a more modern version:

Be interesting to see where the new consoles sit on that chart.

robfosters · 21 Apr 2020 at 19:21

Puzzled said:
Xbox One X is a bargain then, was tempted to get one before the lockdown just to save the hassle of messing around with graphics settings on the pc trying to get things smooth.

On par with a 980Ti, and I paid £600 for one of them!

Puzzled · 21 Apr 2020 at 19:31

robfosters said:
On par with a 980Ti, and I paid £600 for one of them!

Still go for over £100 now, could get an Xbox One X for £250 with 2 games.

Isn't the PS5 supposed to be about £500, be interesting to see how they stack up.

robfosters · 21 Apr 2020 at 19:35

Puzzled said:
Still go for over £100 now, could get an Xbox One X for £250 with 2 games.

Isn't the PS5 supposed to be about £500, be interesting to see how they stack up.

PS5 is around 10 teraflops. Not even as powerful as a 3 year old 1080Ti. The days of consoles being more powerful than PC’s at launch are over.

new Xbox is 12, so midway between a 1080Ti and a 2080Ti.

mattyfez · 21 Apr 2020 at 19:39

raw processing power is one thing, average FPS at resolution X in game X is another.