Console performance vs PCs over time

Noise is all relative - my console is sat the other side of the room when i'm using it and i've never noticed a noise from either my Xbox One or One S. My PC on the other hand (and I would suggest more typically for most people) is sat right under my desk, so even the smallest amount of noise is noticeable because it's right there. Even having spent money on water cooling and quiet fans, it still makes a noticeable hum when on. I'm sure the XBox would too if I was almost sat on top of it but that's not really a typical use case for a console.
 
Guest2 said:
Red ring of death. I had that one 2 Xboxes and binned them after attempting repair
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I remember when Halo 3 (I think?) came out and the instant update required resulted in a number of consoles getting the RROD, I knew about it and still installed the update and...yeh console went off to MS :D
 
Nasher said:
Yea which is still quite loud at high load. 110mm isn't a large fan, that's smaller than standard case fans and I'm guessing they don't exactly use Noctua ones...
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Max of 41db @ 1m which is on the higher end of what a good AiO cooler would make under load. So not incredible but not that loud, especially when it's designed to be used 3-10m away.

The 360 was loud, but they did a good job fixing that issue.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-xbox-one-hardware-test
 
The initial batch of Xbox one X's were duff as well. I had two die, my third's ok but I had to replace the optical drive on it. Not the end of the world but very annoying, I suppose they make them as cheap as possible. Wasn't the RROD due to the glue supporting one of the components melting at high temps?
 
MrRockliffe said:
According to the graph, it will have been around launch. I would imagine within a few months NVIDIA will have released a new GPU that was significantly more powerful than a 360.
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That graph does not represent performance in any game metric like framerate, it measures compute power, which is only really useful if you're comparing the best bitcoin mining card... Remember the PS3 which based on it's 2TFlop cell CPU was being touted as better than supercomputers.
 
Xbox 360 was loud, jesus sounded like it was about take off with the disc drive spinning and as said had those really annoying high pitched fans when playing a downloaded game. The PS4 Pro is a mix of nice and quiet to suddenly sounding like vacuum cleaner when it starts to heat up but better than previous generations.

I've read that the One X is very quiet so hopefully both the new Xbox and PS5 will use quiet cooling systems.
 
I think the key point is less about the power of the hardware, and more about the ease of getting the performance out of it when you've got huge numbers of identical devices - and that makes SUCH a huge difference in terms of real world performance. It's a similar story with the likes of MacOS, if you only have to focus on a small number of GPUs / CPUs / APUs or whatever the developers can stretch those components much more than having to developer for the enormous range of hardware there is the PC gaming arena. I've always wondered if the PC needed a set of standardised hardware as base platforms that developers could focus on (a bit like LTS releases in Linux)...... ultimately ignoring the software / hardware interplay in consoles vs PCs makes any comparison of raw power pretty pointless IMHO,
 
This is a easy question.

Remember when you first got with your wife? How was the performance? So if you get a upgrade after a few years, what will your performance be like then?
 
Consoles are trying to be like pc with mandatory long installs even though you have the game disk and updates to games too.

If you use your pc to bring home the bacon as well as playing video games, it's made its money way more than a console
 
Puzzled said:
Xbox 360 was loud, jesus sounded like it was about take off with the disc drive spinning and as said had those really annoying high pitched fans when playing a downloaded game. The PS4 Pro is a mix of nice and quiet to suddenly sounding like vacuum cleaner when it starts to heat up but better than previous generations.

I've read that the One X is very quiet so hopefully both the new Xbox and PS5 will use quiet cooling systems.
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You can never have silent cooling in a tiny case using fans. Not once you put any load on it :/
 
Recent Digital foundry videos put the series X playing gears 5 at or very close to RTX2080 performance, playing at 4k60 with raytracing.

Not that the console is anywhere near as powerful, but with optimisation the difference between high end PC's and the new consoles will be significantly harder to distinguish.
 
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