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Constant Re-Boots
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I have the same psu, and every now and then, it will just shut down. pressing the power button from the case or motherboard don't work and to be honest, i havent done any fault findings to narrow down the cause of this.
When it does happen, i press the test button, it seems to solve it, and the system will powered up, till the next time.
very annoying
When it does happen, i press the test button, it seems to solve it, and the system will powered up, till the next time.
very annoying
OK one thing that I was considering was updating the bios on my MSI X399 Gaming Pro Carbon AC mobo. It's weird since it currently says it's version 1.B0 and yet on MSI website there is no mention of this version but a newer version 7B09v1C. I am very tempted just to install this anyway but not sure if it will fix anything.
My suspicions are that there is a component on my PC that is on it's way out but it is finding out which one which is the problem! RAM, mobo, CPU, H100i cooler, PSU, M2 sticks? Since the machine crashes even in BIOS it rules out Windaz.
My suspicions are that there is a component on my PC that is on it's way out but it is finding out which one which is the problem! RAM, mobo, CPU, H100i cooler, PSU, M2 sticks? Since the machine crashes even in BIOS it rules out Windaz.
I see what you did there
Think you will have bios version 7B09v1B, bios file is called E7B09AMS.1B0
Your version is 6 years old, so a update may help.
@freddie64 Cool! Thanks for that
I just read that someone with a similar problem put their mobo in the oven at 205 degrees for five minutes and it fixed the problem? Really
I just read that someone with a similar problem put their mobo in the oven at 205 degrees for five minutes and it fixed the problem? Really
Soldato
DIY version of solder reflow
Usually used as a last ditch effort
If nothing else worked
Only thing that worries me doing a bios update is if it restart whilst doing it. Won’t that bugger up the mobo?
Yeah, but the pc is unusable at the minute as it is, if the bios gets bricked at least your forced into making a commitment to upgrade.
At present your kind of nowhere further than you was a week ago, you don't have the ability to swap parts willy nilly and it's not just going to magically fix itself
Motherboard has Flash bios button, so should be able to force a reflash if this happens.
You could always try the button with nothing attached to the motherboard, just the 24 pin and 8 pin power cables.
Thanks for all the advice peeps. I have recently run OCCT software on my PC and everything checks out fine. Indeed since I ran the tests my PC has behaved! I remember doing a Windows update just before the problems started and am wondering if the update upset something low level on my PC?
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Probably not, but there was a dodgy update recently that was causing boot issues. I think your issues pre-date it though.
Well my PSU which was under warranty went back to the shop and it proved faulty and they sent me a new one. Hurrah I thought the problem is fixed! So I installed it and all the connections and guess what? Yup it went back to spontaneous re-booting... I can only think that this problem is due to the CPU or Mobo now. Although I am tempted to unplug the USB cable running from the CPU to the mobo which is used for the iCue software. Or update the BIOS.
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Interesting thread. Ive got a brand new build, first one in ages and im having a similar issue.
Computer seems fine but whenever i leave it on and walk away its just crashes, no bsod, error code or anything and reboots itself...
Ive got an intel i7 14700k and read a load of stuff about the instability of these chips so i returned it and changed with another from a different source so completely different batch. Fitted the new one and it seemed ok for 7 days and now in the last 24 hours ive had 4 re boots.
Ill be interested if our issue is related.
Spec
i7 14700k
Gigabyte z790 x ax gaming mobo
32gb crucial pro ddr5 6000mhz
Gigabyte UD850GM 850w PSU
Computer seems fine but whenever i leave it on and walk away its just crashes, no bsod, error code or anything and reboots itself...
Ive got an intel i7 14700k and read a load of stuff about the instability of these chips so i returned it and changed with another from a different source so completely different batch. Fitted the new one and it seemed ok for 7 days and now in the last 24 hours ive had 4 re boots.
Ill be interested if our issue is related.
Spec
i7 14700k
Gigabyte z790 x ax gaming mobo
32gb crucial pro ddr5 6000mhz
Gigabyte UD850GM 850w PSU
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Have you got the most recent mobo BIOS? September 2023 looks like the latest.
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Yes all the drivers and the bios are the latest.
Ive temporarily disconnected the reset switch header from the motherboard to rule that out too.
Ive temporarily disconnected the reset switch header from the motherboard to rule that out too.
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OK the latest is I updated the BIOS to 1C and it still re-booted every now and then. Interesting thing is when it did try and re-boot one time it stuck and the CPU diode light on the mobo was on… Then I pushed the re-boot button and it behaved. Now another thing I have noticed is that the front USB 2 slots on the front of the case have stopped working although the USB 3 is still working didn't do this before??? I then tried re-booting into my old Windows 10 M2 drive (I kept it as a back-up) and it still re-boots. I am now wondering if the thermal paste needs changing or the mobo is just on it's way out. Very annoying since it's tricky finding a replacement board that takes two GPUs that are both 16 bit PCIE - I was looking at the ASUS B650 one that seems to fit the bill.
This kind of reminds me of my previous PC which I originally built back in 2012. It started having problems where is just wouldn't boot. Eventually I had the RAM replaced and it was fine. I gave it to my sister and after a few years she had problems booting and had to keep pushing F8. So I took it back and re-installed Windows from scratch and it has behaved fine since then and that was nearly a year ago. I am wondering whether I should scrap my Windows installation and re-install everything from scratch to see if that removes the problem? Sound like a good idea?
This kind of reminds me of my previous PC which I originally built back in 2012. It started having problems where is just wouldn't boot. Eventually I had the RAM replaced and it was fine. I gave it to my sister and after a few years she had problems booting and had to keep pushing F8. So I took it back and re-installed Windows from scratch and it has behaved fine since then and that was nearly a year ago. I am wondering whether I should scrap my Windows installation and re-install everything from scratch to see if that removes the problem? Sound like a good idea?
OK I thought I would test the RAM again but more thoroughly and using slot B2 as the manual said. So the first two RAM sticks on their own still had re-boots, but the third has given me no re-boots after 5 hours so maybe the RAM is faulty…
OK I am still holding off replacing any hardware on this PC since I am convinced that the problem is something simple. I am pretty sure that the problem is down to the mobo/CPU and I read that sometimes the CPU might not be getting enough current and is re-booting? The problem does seem to be like something is shorting out. Is this some thing to do with 'AMD Cool n' Quiet' being enabled and 'Global C-states Control' set to Auto? This is slightly beyond my knowledge but is it worth a try? Also setting the voltage to the CPU to 1.35 from the default - defintely don't know what I am doing here…
Try a offset with the smallest increment will be something like 0.0125v steps. have been following this thread but its hard to say what's wrong here
if that doesn't help try a touch more voltage on the soc/ram.