Controversial steroids thread...
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just as a matter of interest majik how many of the guys in wwe would u say use steroids.
obviously hhh, scott steiner and other ripped huge guys do but would someone say of a more athletic build like the rock?? or would taker kain etc??
obviously hhh, scott steiner and other ripped huge guys do but would someone say of a more athletic build like the rock?? or would taker kain etc??
These threads crack me up. 'Steroids ok for personal use' what utter mince.
As for a don saying go for it, it's beyond believe.
I can beat anyone who takes steroids at anything, how? Because I ain't as completely stupid as they are, ask your GP, and don't pretend you know better than them....
As for a don saying go for it, it's beyond believe.
I can beat anyone who takes steroids at anything, how? Because I ain't as completely stupid as they are, ask your GP, and don't pretend you know better than them....
Im sorry, what exactly is 'utter mince'? I feel the same way about cocaine for example. Who are you to tell anyone what they can do with their body?
If I ever were to take steroids in later life then I would make sure I knew the health risks.
Who I am is a taxpayer that would have to help pay for you to be treated as your organs struggled to cope with the accelerated load that steroids put on them.
If anyone is reading this that might be thinking of trying these things: Forget it, I've competed against people who take these things and won. One guy used to beat me regularly before he started to 'dabble'.
Don't be stupid, find yourself a good osteopath if you want a useful aid to training.
If anyone is reading this that might be thinking of trying these things: Forget it, I've competed against people who take these things and won. One guy used to beat me regularly before he started to 'dabble'.
Don't be stupid, find yourself a good osteopath if you want a useful aid to training.
Cyrus - dunno bud. I would say most of them if I'm honest at some point in their careers.
Edna - I can't believe your ill-informed comments are serious! You are indeed a taxpayer -what about the evil people out there who drink alcohol? Those bloodthristy smokers! Cast them out of the hospitals!!! That is a very elitist attitude you have there my friend. If someone is taking roids, chances are they are looking afetr their body twenty times more than your average couch potato who throws fat and salt down their gulletts every day.
Why should I pay for Joe Average's heart problems and anemia when I take great care of myself? Why should I pay for all you footballer's sports injuries?
I congratulate you on competing and beating a chemically assisted athlete. That's not what the thread is about. We are talking non-competitive here.
If I choose to take roids, then thats my choice. I am NOT completely stupid, and should I ever decide to take them, then I would consider that an extremely insulting comment.
As for your claim that you can beat anyone at anything on roids, that is just ridiculous.
I have talked at length to biomedics and chemists as well as GPs about steroids, as a friend of mine was on them due to her ashtma. The conversions went to illegal roids and cycling and they clued me up a lot. The GP, however, knew next to nothing about them and wouldn't know a D-Bol/Sust stack if he stepped on it - however, he did take a lot of information from the clinicians and used it to great effect.
Edna - I can't believe your ill-informed comments are serious! You are indeed a taxpayer -what about the evil people out there who drink alcohol? Those bloodthristy smokers! Cast them out of the hospitals!!! That is a very elitist attitude you have there my friend. If someone is taking roids, chances are they are looking afetr their body twenty times more than your average couch potato who throws fat and salt down their gulletts every day.
Why should I pay for Joe Average's heart problems and anemia when I take great care of myself? Why should I pay for all you footballer's sports injuries?
I congratulate you on competing and beating a chemically assisted athlete. That's not what the thread is about. We are talking non-competitive here.
If I choose to take roids, then thats my choice. I am NOT completely stupid, and should I ever decide to take them, then I would consider that an extremely insulting comment.
As for your claim that you can beat anyone at anything on roids, that is just ridiculous.
I have talked at length to biomedics and chemists as well as GPs about steroids, as a friend of mine was on them due to her ashtma. The conversions went to illegal roids and cycling and they clued me up a lot. The GP, however, knew next to nothing about them and wouldn't know a D-Bol/Sust stack if he stepped on it - however, he did take a lot of information from the clinicians and used it to great effect.
I just said that people like me have to help to pay for the care of people that take steroids. I didn't say anyone should be thrown out of hospital.
If you think you can take care of your body whilst taking steroids I suggest a long talk with a medical professional, you clearly have no idea what you are on about.
'If I choose to take roids, then thats my choice. I am NOT completely stupid, and should I ever decide to take them, then I would consider that an extremely insulting comment.'
No it is not, and yes, you would be completely stupid to take them.
'As for your claim that you can beat anyone at anything on roids, that is just ridiculous'
Nope.
Why would you take steroids if you weren't competeing at something, unless they were prescribed for something.
The amount of people standing up for the use of this stuff is disturbing...........
If you think you can take care of your body whilst taking steroids I suggest a long talk with a medical professional, you clearly have no idea what you are on about.
'If I choose to take roids, then thats my choice. I am NOT completely stupid, and should I ever decide to take them, then I would consider that an extremely insulting comment.'
No it is not, and yes, you would be completely stupid to take them.
'As for your claim that you can beat anyone at anything on roids, that is just ridiculous'
Nope.
Why would you take steroids if you weren't competeing at something, unless they were prescribed for something.
The amount of people standing up for the use of this stuff is disturbing...........
And I responded by saying we pay for people that drink, smoke, play sports, so why single out Steroid users?
Did you read the thread? I know an AWFUL lot about steroids. From medical professionals and other sources. If you take the time, you will see I clearly know entirely what I am on about. Remember - medical professionals prescribe steroids!
Why is taking roids not my choice? Who should have control over what I put in my body except me?
Your blinkered view here is beginning to be slightly insulting to me, TBH, as I have structured a decent debate here and you are responding by insinuating stupidity on the subject. Feel free to debate, but a stubborn refusal and aggressive words are not adding anything here. In response, I would NOT be stupid to take them, I would only be stupid if I approached the subject without investigating the facts and getting clued up on it. But that counts for all subjects, doesn't it?
Again, if you had read the thread, it is a personal choice on your physical attributes being improved. Those who want to look a certain shape or size.
Those that are standing up for it are open minded and pro-choice, why is that so bad?
Majik
listen my son.
You need to go and talk to somebody about this.
I repeat, you clearly know nothing about this subject, if you did, you would dismiss steroid use out of hand, like I do.
Lets face it, these things are for wee boys that can't cut it, and need a little help. I promise you, there are far better ways to improve your performance or whatever it is you're after.
You need to go and talk to somebody about this.
I repeat, you clearly know nothing about this subject, if you did, you would dismiss steroid use out of hand, like I do.
Lets face it, these things are for wee boys that can't cut it, and need a little help. I promise you, there are far better ways to improve your performance or whatever it is you're after.
Edna, although i am against steroids (as i am against any un-natural enahancements) i feel your argument is a little thin. Patronising people for knowing nothing while providing no extra infortmation to the argument yourself is a bit much. You consistently ignore everything he's asked you and your aggressive tone is hardly conductive 
.
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i havent really read all these posts, only just scanned through..
but anyway, i agree with Balddog....if/when (many years to go!) i reach my peak size i would consider juicing..the one thing people dont understand about steroids is that if you are for example a pro bodybuilder (Arnie/Zane/Fracno/Zappa etc all juiced) you will have to train twice as hard to get any decent results out of the steroids...so its not, as a lot of people say 'oh they only got big coz they took steroids, its cheating'
if people want to take steroids its their choice, as long as they know there can be complications/side affects etc.
and edna...most bodybuilders still have their steroids sorted out by their GP's...
Cryus, there was a thread about that on bb.com a while back about which didnt and which did...Brok Lesnar obviously does lol...erm, i think i remember reading that Edge doesnt take roids. Afaik the rock does, and so do most of them really, ill see if i can find the thread for you, was very interesting
but anyway, i agree with Balddog....if/when (many years to go!) i reach my peak size i would consider juicing..the one thing people dont understand about steroids is that if you are for example a pro bodybuilder (Arnie/Zane/Fracno/Zappa etc all juiced) you will have to train twice as hard to get any decent results out of the steroids...so its not, as a lot of people say 'oh they only got big coz they took steroids, its cheating'
if people want to take steroids its their choice, as long as they know there can be complications/side affects etc.
and edna...most bodybuilders still have their steroids sorted out by their GP's...
Cryus, there was a thread about that on bb.com a while back about which didnt and which did...Brok Lesnar obviously does lol...erm, i think i remember reading that Edge doesnt take roids. Afaik the rock does, and so do most of them really, ill see if i can find the thread for you, was very interesting
Excuse me? I am not your Son for a start.
Talk to someone? Do you read anything at all? Try scrolling up once in a while and READ!
So far you have offered nothing but your own stubborn opinion that steroids are bad, backed up by nothing. From your argument so far, I would suggest your good self as being the wee boy.
Your obstinance on this is aggravating. Kindly step out of the debate as you seem now to be trolling. My thanks.
edit - Obviously, my little rant is directed at Edna. Thankyou Cliffy and PAz for getting us back on track!
Majik
Talk to someone? Do you read anything at all? Try scrolling up once in a while and READ!
So far you have offered nothing but your own stubborn opinion that steroids are bad, backed up by nothing. From your argument so far, I would suggest your good self as being the wee boy.
Your obstinance on this is aggravating. Kindly step out of the debate as you seem now to be trolling. My thanks.
edit - Obviously, my little rant is directed at Edna. Thankyou Cliffy and PAz for getting us back on track!
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I cant help it, I'm on steroids........arf.
There is a mountain of proof about the harm these things can do. I did say go and see a GP if you have taken anything........
Having competed myself I find this stuff highly annoying. Wee boys cheating is all it boils down to, well cheating and then having some bizarre temper tantrum and then piddling blood for a bit before calling an ambulance. oh yes, I've see it happen.
There is a mountain of proof about the harm these things can do. I did say go and see a GP if you have taken anything........
Having competed myself I find this stuff highly annoying. Wee boys cheating is all it boils down to, well cheating and then having some bizarre temper tantrum and then piddling blood for a bit before calling an ambulance. oh yes, I've see it happen.
Good question. Yes I do, but they ain't digital, and I can't be bothered to scan 'em in to somehow support the case against the use of steroids.
Has anyone here actually competed in anything serious? By serious I mean the kind of event where perhaps national champions would take part, or something like that. Have any of those people taken steroids, or even creatine, which seems to have been exposed as a health risk as well now, hmmm? I think not.
If you wanna spend a fortune on baby milk with pictures of huge men all over it, then go ahead, it wont hurt you. Steroids on the other hand are a shortcut to serious health problems, avoid.
Has anyone here actually competed in anything serious? By serious I mean the kind of event where perhaps national champions would take part, or something like that. Have any of those people taken steroids, or even creatine, which seems to have been exposed as a health risk as well now, hmmm? I think not.
If you wanna spend a fortune on baby milk with pictures of huge men all over it, then go ahead, it wont hurt you. Steroids on the other hand are a shortcut to serious health problems, avoid.
I've never taken steroids. Lets make that clear.
I am more than aware of what steroids can do.
However, please enlighten me on your knowledge. I'm dying to hear why they are so bad from your point of view.
And how is it cheating? If the user is not competing against anyone?
edit - In answer to questions from Edna: I've been taking creatine for two years in cycles. I've competed nationally at shoot fighting, and I'm an internationally known pro wrestler.
Majik
I am more than aware of what steroids can do.
However, please enlighten me on your knowledge. I'm dying to hear why they are so bad from your point of view.
And how is it cheating? If the user is not competing against anyone?
edit - In answer to questions from Edna: I've been taking creatine for two years in cycles. I've competed nationally at shoot fighting, and I'm an internationally known pro wrestler.
Majik
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ive only been working out for just over a year now and have been looking into starting taking Creatine, and ull find that a lot of the chaps on here (Altered Corpse/Balddog/Kendo etc etc theres plenty more) know their stuff =) and i think most have taken creatine etc..
no i havent competed, im 18, i just spend my free time reading bb.com/my arnie books etc etc, i just try to learn =)
and i dont wanna see pics to prove your wrong, im just generally interested in seeing your build etc...and no im not bent ;p
no i havent competed, im 18, i just spend my free time reading bb.com/my arnie books etc etc, i just try to learn =)
and i dont wanna see pics to prove your wrong, im just generally interested in seeing your build etc...and no im not bent ;p
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was this thread directed towards the illegal steroids (the ones u inject) or legal ones (creatine is a form of steroid?)
I'm glad you've never taken them, I hope it stays that way.
My contact with steroids comes from the early ninties when I was on the fringe of the British team for an endurance sport. Everybody there dismissed their use out of hand, make no mistake, nobody wanted anything to do with steroids and for good reason.
Having been there I can understand how some people could be driven to try these things out. But the health risks are proven, the only debate now is how bad they are, but they are bad:
Anabolic steroids promote the growth of many tissues in the body by stimulating the release of the hormone testoterone.
By disturbing the body's equilibrium, anabolic steroids can potentially cause damage to many of the body's major organs, particularly the liver, which has to deal with breaking down the compound.
There is also a significant risk of damage to the heart, which is made of muscle tissue. Anabolic steroids can lead to an expansion of the cardiac muscle, which can cause heart attacks.
The drugs also promote the growth of bones, particularly facial bones such as the jaw, and the teeth.
There is also an increased risk of cancer.
Other side effects include:
The development of inappropriate sexual characteristics such as breasts in men, and facial hair in women;
A deepening of the voice;
Baldness;
Male impotence.
John Brewer, director of the Human Performance Centre at the Lilleshall National Sports Centre, said: "The health risks associated with anabolic steroids are as serious as you can get.
"They greatly increase a person's risk of dying early or of suffering long-term physical problems.
"While the rewards of success in sport are getting greater and greater, the temptation to take anabolic steroids should be offset by the risk of an early grave."
Well, I'm convinced, how about you?
At the end of the day, do you really want to eat something that is usually made from sperm?
My contact with steroids comes from the early ninties when I was on the fringe of the British team for an endurance sport. Everybody there dismissed their use out of hand, make no mistake, nobody wanted anything to do with steroids and for good reason.
Having been there I can understand how some people could be driven to try these things out. But the health risks are proven, the only debate now is how bad they are, but they are bad:
Anabolic steroids promote the growth of many tissues in the body by stimulating the release of the hormone testoterone.
By disturbing the body's equilibrium, anabolic steroids can potentially cause damage to many of the body's major organs, particularly the liver, which has to deal with breaking down the compound.
There is also a significant risk of damage to the heart, which is made of muscle tissue. Anabolic steroids can lead to an expansion of the cardiac muscle, which can cause heart attacks.
The drugs also promote the growth of bones, particularly facial bones such as the jaw, and the teeth.
There is also an increased risk of cancer.
Other side effects include:
The development of inappropriate sexual characteristics such as breasts in men, and facial hair in women;
A deepening of the voice;
Baldness;
Male impotence.
John Brewer, director of the Human Performance Centre at the Lilleshall National Sports Centre, said: "The health risks associated with anabolic steroids are as serious as you can get.
"They greatly increase a person's risk of dying early or of suffering long-term physical problems.
"While the rewards of success in sport are getting greater and greater, the temptation to take anabolic steroids should be offset by the risk of an early grave."
Well, I'm convinced, how about you?
At the end of the day, do you really want to eat something that is usually made from sperm?
hoho, just reads a bit more...
'So far you have offered nothing but your own stubborn opinion that steroids are bad, backed up by nothing'
Nothing? Do I have to quote? It's well known these things are bad, real bad. It's a proven fact.
You're a rank idiot for even considering that stuff.
'So far you have offered nothing but your own stubborn opinion that steroids are bad, backed up by nothing'
Nothing? Do I have to quote? It's well known these things are bad, real bad. It's a proven fact.
You're a rank idiot for even considering that stuff.