Controversial thread.. - question for gays.

Castiel · 25 Mar 2011 at 19:25

Tefal said:
I'm sure there's room for 2 in salami

I have on good authority that when his shrink said he should try Group Session, he got very excited....... :eek:

Davies_M · 25 Mar 2011 at 19:25

Tefal said:
I'm sure there's room for 2 in salami

Sharing is caring after all.

Meridian · 25 Mar 2011 at 19:27

Castiel said:
No, I mean in the Nobility, it was common, only becoming frowned upon toward the later 12/13 centuries. Nobility often sealed treaties by sleeping together as a mark of trust.

It should be pointed out that sleeping (and talking) was all that happened. The principle went like this: the king had people with him at all times, except when sleeping. To be allowed to sleep with him was to be allowed to have secret discussions with no advisers to interrupt. Homosexuality in itself was understood, but by no means tolerated. Whilst Edward II got in most trouble for allowing his male lovers to have undue influence over him, there's little doubt that his homosexuality was, in itself, a major reason for his downfall.

M

Castiel · 25 Mar 2011 at 19:30

Makunouchi said:

Google "glass bottom pants" or "Church of Fudge".

Tefal · 25 Mar 2011 at 19:32

PMKeates said:
*runs back in*

I think you'll find it was actually the Muslims.

*sprints like Linford away*

Are you saying white men can't sprint?

You racist! :mad:

Westyfield2 · 25 Mar 2011 at 19:33

These Friday Afternoon back from the pub threads get better and better!

xJcBx said:
Nah I don't hate gays, I live with a lesbian and a gay, and we all get on really well. In fact they're both more manly than me lol

Macfag

[TW]Sponge · 25 Mar 2011 at 19:35

On a more serious note, I can't findz my Chinese menu :rolleyes:

EDIT: Found it

Castiel · 25 Mar 2011 at 19:41

Meridian said:
It should be pointed out that sleeping (and talking) was all that happened. The principle went like this: the king had people with him at all times, except when sleeping. To be allowed to sleep with him was to be allowed to have secret discussions with no advisers to interrupt. Homosexuality in itself was understood, but by no means tolerated. Whilst Edward II got in most trouble for allowing his male lovers to have undue influence over him, there's little doubt that his homosexuality was, in itself, a major reason for his downfall.

M

As I said it was not frowned upon until later in the period. The first regulations against homosexuality didn't surface until the mid 12th century.

While I will agree that by the 14th century (as I said before) the cultural mood had changed in regard to homosexuality, during the early period it was of no real concern, especially outside of England.

It wasn't until the late Medieval period and the Renaissance that Homosexuality or Sodomy as it was then referred to (homosexual being a term not coined until 1892) was actively persecuted.

DM · 25 Mar 2011 at 19:44

So was bum banditry illegal in them days?

Westyfield2 · 25 Mar 2011 at 19:45

DM said:
in them days?

Thought you and Housey were around in them days?

Castiel · 25 Mar 2011 at 19:46

DM said:
So was bum banditry illegal in them days?

It was illegal until quite recently.

DM · 25 Mar 2011 at 19:49

Westyfield2 said:
Thought you and Housey were around in them days?

Yes thank you for that

Hitman_Leon · 25 Mar 2011 at 19:50

Its what you are sexually attracted to, for me wormen, for gays of either sex their own gender.

Its how its always been and should be just excepted.

The only thing that can never be accepted in sexual preference or attraction is forced sexual activity with no-consenting adults or paedophilia.

For the record I cant stand either man hating extreme lesbians or mincing woman wanna-be women gays these people seem to also get on gay and lesbian friends nerves so its not a hetro thing to get annoyed by them, the same go's for gay and lesbian hater's, why hate them?, pointless.

salami1212 · 25 Mar 2011 at 19:59

Burnsy2023 said:
I still don't see you reasoning to why being gay is 'abnormal'

Well its hardly "normal" is it..

I define normal as being the views or actions of the majority..

sponge999 said:
I don't think you can compare them to be honest

Course you can, sex and the like are what a relationship is based around..

Nitefly · 25 Mar 2011 at 20:00

salami1212 said:
Well its hardly "normal" is it..

I define normal as being the views or actions of the majority..

I think you are meaning to say it's not common.

Saying it's not normal implies there is something wrong with it.

DM · 25 Mar 2011 at 20:02

Raiders of the lost rectum!

Castiel · 25 Mar 2011 at 20:03

salami1212 said:
Well its hardly "normal" is it..

I define normal as being the views or actions of the majority..

So being an atheist is abnormal?

Nitefly · 25 Mar 2011 at 20:03

DM said:
Raiders of the lost rectum!

Are you eight?

"willy poo bum lol!!"

Castiel · 25 Mar 2011 at 20:04

Nitefly said:
I think you are meaning to say it's not common.

Saying it's not normal implies there is something wrong with it.

He knows what he means I think nitefly, he is intentionally implying there is something wrong with it. Regrettably so.

salami1212 · 25 Mar 2011 at 20:08

Nitefly said:
I think you are meaning to say it's not common.

Saying it's not normal implies there is something wrong with it.

not at all. if someone likes peanut butter and jam sandwiches, that to me is definitely not normal, nothing wrong with it though. maybe abnormal was the wrong word.. but to me it is definitely not normal.