Costco receipt checking

No a law wasn't broken but what would've happened if I walked away? Would they have tried to detain me? If not, does that make the search optional? If so, would it be a lawful detention?

Probably, because by refusing a simple check you'd likely then give them reasonable grounds to suspect you were attempting a theft and they could thus detain you because of it i'd have thought.
 
It's nothing to do with your negative statement, it's pretty much fact.

"Pretty much" because a few people say so?


You still refuse to accept that you're wrong

I'm not wrong.

I have no idea what happened to you before with the Police but I don't think I've met anyone with such a huge chip on their shoulder as you have.

Lucky you.If you are interested, I made a thread about it back in April :)

This thread was entertaining originally, now it's just got really tedious.

I think it's fine, you don't have to read it. Others are still happily posting and no rules are being broken :). I think it makes a nice change to "spec me a toaster" threads.

If you thought they were doing something illegal, you should have got the Police involved at the time but you didn't,

Wrong. Like I said above, the police do not want to be bothered with trivial matters. My car window got smashed last year, they said they don't turn up for that kind of thing anymore and gave me a crime number. I'm repeating myself but as you obviously missed it the first time (even though you quoted it) I wouldn't call the police for the crime of littering in the street as it's simply not worth it. I may create a thread about littering though if I felt I wanted to dicsuss it on a discussion forum :)

all you've done is come here and complain (do you prefer 'complain' to 'whine') about it.

Wrong again. I'm not complaining. If I wanted to complain I'd write to Costco. I simply presented the facts and proceeded to discuss the legalities of the situation. What you perceive as "whining/moaning/complaining" is actually me just replying to posts by other members. I don't want to leave anyone out!

the shop has done absolutely nothing whatsoever wrong at all.

They might have if I refused.

Grow up and accept that you're wrong.

I'm not wrong.
 
We are just going around in circles here. OP is never going to accept it, so what's the point?

Why do I have to be aligned with your way of thinking? Am I not allowed to hold my own opinion?

It's still not actually a detention at this stage.

If they prevented me from leaving without reasonable suspicion then that would be detaining, wouldn't it?
 
Probably, because by refusing a simple check you'd likely then give them reasonable grounds to suspect you were attempting a theft and they could thus detain you because of it i'd have thought.

They could not detain him. As above, carrying out a citizens arrest is risky unless you know the conditions required to make one. If he turned out innocent, or excess force was used (these are just examples) then the arresting citizen could find themselves in hot water.
 
Why do I have to be aligned with your way of thinking? Am I not allowed to hold my own opinion?

You don't have to agree to my way of thinking, but even after a hundred + posts from others you opinion doesn't seem to even sway a little bit. Rather seeking for a reason, which we have given, you simply continue to whine (yes i said it), complain, moan, bitching about how you have been done wrong.

Opinions are like holes, we all have them. They all stink.
 
Why do I have to be aligned with your way of thinking? Am I not allowed to hold my own opinion?



If they prevented me from leaving without reasonable suspicion then that would be detaining, wouldn't it?

Asking to check your trolley is not a detention. Preventing you from leaving by closing doors, restraining you etc is. If they did the latter, then they would be breaking the law.

Asking you to remain until a police officer arrives would be acceptable.
 
Rather seeking for a reason, which we have given,

I'm not seeking a reason. I know why they search people I'm interested in discussing the inner workings of the law to find out if what they are doing is actually legal. Why, you ask? Because I'm interested in it.

you simply continue to whine (yes i said it), complain, moan, bitching about how you have been done wrong.

Here we go again with the whining. Perhaps it's just the tone in which internet posts are read, but I assure you I have a smile on my face when reading this thread. :D People whine in GD all the time, I think it's being given too much attention in this thread to detract from the fact that we haven't really got into discussing the actual law (no more T&C quotes please!)
 
Asking you to remain until a police officer arrives would be acceptable.

So what happens if he doesn't?

I find it hard to believe a shop has absolutely no rights to restrain anybody that they reasonably suspect of shoplifting, otherwise it would surely be rampant as you could just walk out of any shop you pleased and all they could risk doing (unless they were absolutely 100% sure) is saying 'Please you would you mind waiting sir?', to which you reply 'No' and walk off with all your stolen goods :confused:
 
Life is too short for this crap.

Tell me about it! I'm tired now. I didn't expect such a huge response but I don't like to "post and run" so I try to reply to everyone who aims a question at me. I'm off to have a beer! I look forward to reading the next barrage of crap that heads my way :D
 
So what happens if he doesn't?

I find it hard to believe a shop has absolutely no rights to restrain anybody that they reasonably suspect of shoplifting, otherwise it would surely be rampant as you could just walk out of any shop you pleased and all they could risk doing (unless they were absolutely 100% sure) is saying 'Please you would you mind waiting sir?', to which you reply 'No' and walk off with all your stolen goods :confused:

Most stores do not encourge physical restraint in a theft situation as a citizens arrest cannot be made - I'm referring to petty theft, not nicking the till.

However, the police will rarely take action against a quick thinking employee that legs up and sits on a thief making off with a telly under his arm.
 
I was only replying to the many times that you kept telling me I was wrong. ;)

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Okay, I'll answer the question of

What if he doesn't?

How about the store revoke the membership of the member because he brought in a guest who refuse to comply with the rules?

I think that is PERFECTLY fair and legitimate and fully within their rights.

The member would just tell the friend to let them check your bags. If the OP doesn't then, i dunno, argument ensures in the store between the member and the OP.
 
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