Could it be??! Microsoft have actually made a decent OS ? (Win7)

Knubje · 23 Sep 2009 at 13:21

grudas said:
i have never managed to move to vista from xp.. i dont think i will be able to move to win7.. i just like simplicity in winxp.. and it's much more user friendly for me than vista..

Win7 is winner mate. I was exactly like you. If you have a dual core or up and intend on having 4gb+ of RAM then seriosuly upgrade to Win7 64b. You won't be dissapointed.

If you are on a p4 2GB RAM just get the 32bit

Either way, give it a whirl, once you go 7 you won't go back!

boxman2000 · 23 Sep 2009 at 13:57

Knubje said:
Win7 is winner mate. I was exactly like you. If you have a dual core or up and intend on having 4gb+ of RAM then seriosuly upgrade to Win7 64b. You won't be dissapointed.

If you are on a p4 2GB RAM just get the 32bit

Either way, give it a whirl, once you go 7 you won't go back!

I was like this with Windows 2000 to XP, took me ages to move but XP was in a different league.

I have 4 PC's all with XP on but am now running one of these with 7 and am so far very impressed, much better than Vista but can now see the logic behind what Microsoft was trying to do as far as layout goes on Vista.

With running systems infrastructure in my office I do see it being another 18 months to 2 years before I would look to move though. I think a lot of businesses will eventually move to 7 but only in conjunction with their hardware replacement cycle, but with the way money is I think most will make do for now. As far as 64bit goes though I don't see many businesses requiring this for many years.

I will be buying 7 64bit for home before my RC runs out for sure though.

Mattus · 23 Sep 2009 at 15:16

I'm switching to 7, but it has nothing to do with performance issues. I really can't say I have any performance problems with Vista x64 at all. Everything runs really smoothly.

jarvis82 · 23 Sep 2009 at 17:53

Funny to see the Vista debate still continuing.

More so because for the last 20 months I have had a dual boot system - Vista Ultimate 64 on one drive, and XP Pro 32 on another. But I hardly ever logged onto Vista.

However, two weeks ago XP went BSOD on startup, and despite a week of trying to sort it via multiple solutions, I eventually had to give up, copy files over to my external, and format from within Vista.

But now, I'm loving Vista. It runs sooo smooth, and sooo very fast. Really really enjoying using it now. Use Vista Premium on my Vaio, and on work PCs, so maybe if I hadn't had that previous exposure I would still be missing XP a bit, I'm not sure.

But for now, I'm loving Vista.

Arachnae · 24 Sep 2009 at 08:48

People can flame me for my opinions as much as they want, but that doesn't make my experiences any less relevant. I experience no end of problems when it comes to vista and networking. If it worked properly, that would be fine. If it was easy to get to and easy to manage, it would be fine. But vista is neither of those things, which makes for a very frustrating time, maybe I'm missing something, but why did they take away the whole being able to right-click and bring up the network connection status?
For me, windows vista is far from stable, both at work and home.. Maybe it is choked by lack of resources? But windows 7 and vista have almost identical minimum requirements.. so how come windows 7 doesn't seem to freeze, crash or implode?

NathanE · 24 Sep 2009 at 09:29

Arachnae said:
but why did they take away the whole being able to right-click and bring up the network connection status?

Because quick access to the network status isn't needed in the 21st century any more.

If you're debugging a network problem then it's hardly much to ask to perform 4 mouse clicks or so to get to the Network Connections browser.

Cuchulain · 24 Sep 2009 at 09:32

something_totally_different said:
windows shake?? do tell

I normally end up with loads of windows open at work and need something from the desktop so you left click on the window toolbar, shake it about with your mouse and it minimizes all the other windows!

AnDyR0o · 24 Sep 2009 at 09:43

I have been using Win 7 for a few weeks now, i really cant decide either way, it is a really good OS but i cant get used to it somtimes. Better than vista tho.....

daz87uk · 26 Sep 2009 at 00:36

NathanE said:
Because quick access to the network status isn't needed in the 21st century any more.

If you're debugging a network problem then it's hardly much to ask to perform 4 mouse clicks or so to get to the Network Connections browser.

Well I think thats half my/others dislike of vista/7, its all very long winded. Just used an xp machine 2day gave me a flash back on how easy it is to find the correct settings

flew through it all faster than 7, which I have been using since the 7100 build came out.

grudas · 26 Sep 2009 at 00:59

Knubje said:
Win7 is winner mate. I was exactly like you. If you have a dual core or up and intend on having 4gb+ of RAM then seriosuly upgrade to Win7 64b. You won't be dissapointed.

If you are on a p4 2GB RAM just get the 32bit

Either way, give it a whirl, once you go 7 you won't go back!

i think ill give it a go.. have installed vista before on dual boot didn't like it.. not that i have problems with win xp atm...

but it's always nice to try new things out..

NathanE · 26 Sep 2009 at 10:21

daz87uk said:
Well I think thats half my/others dislike of vista/7, its all very long winded. Just used an xp machine 2day gave me a flash back on how easy it is to find the correct settings flew through it all faster than 7, which I have been using since the 7100 build came out.

95% of networks run DHCP nowadays. Why is quick access to network connection settings needed?

snowdog · 26 Sep 2009 at 12:43

NathanE said:
95% of networks run DHCP nowadays. Why is quick access to network connection settings needed?

For example when we restart the modem, the stupid thing assigns MY ip address to a different pc in the network because mine was turned off at the mo power was restored, and I have to go around manually forcing getting 192.168.1.11 back for myself...

Anyways, regardless whether you think it's not needed, I think it is, and I think it's appalling Microsoft goes backwards with the UI to find these things... Things should become easier and faster to access not harder and slower... I still, after about 2 or 3 weeks of using 7, see no real progress compared to vista that makes my tasks faster/easier to do...

NathanE · 26 Sep 2009 at 13:53

snowdog said:
For example when we restart the modem, the stupid thing assigns MY ip address to a different pc in the network because mine was turned off at the mo power was restored, and I have to go around manually forcing getting 192.168.1.11 back for myself...

Reduce the DHCP lease time on your router/modem to about 1 minute. Problem solved.