Counter offered, don't know what to do! HELP!

Thanks everyone for the answers, it makes it an easy decision. It's a shame because I really enjoy working there.

I've been transparent with them and told them weeks ago I was looking else where to kick them up the arse to try and get a development plan in place, but it wasn't until I got the offer that they decided to try and do anything.
 
MissChief said:
The only way I could see this working is absolute, set in stone timescales at your current job, in writing, with the firm knowledge that if x doesn't happen on or before y date, you'll be off. If they really do want to keep you, they'll agree to this. If they're non committal or would rather 'keep this on the back burner' then they're trying to keep you but shaft you at the same time.
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Why wouldn't they agree to that? If they don't bother to follow up on promises in 3 months time, you've then got to carry out your threat except not necessarily with your current or any other decent offer on the table.

That leaves them in a strong position regardless of what they do and even gives them time to prep replacements etc if they know up front they're going to stiff you.

If you were looking, you weren't happy and no faith in them developing you, them making pressured promises is meaningless really, now is the time to go.
 
Company B pays more, offers better benefits, has a structure to personal development and is a FST100?

Why is this even under consideration? Your current employer hasn't even promised you more than what you're getting now / should have already. The ink would still be wet on the resignation if I had the same opportunity tbh :)
 
mid_gen said:
I'll expand on my 'Never take a counter offer.' statement.

1) They should have offered you it before you said you'd had enough and were leaving

2) They probably won't deliver on it

3) You will be black-marked as 'disloyal' and likely be treated somewhat as a second-class employee. Probably not literally, or formally, but you will be 'that guy that has been looking to leave'.
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Spot on, couldn't have said it any better.

You applied elsewhere for a reason, that hasn't changed because you have some dodgy promise.

Be clear, be professional, thank them for everything(even if it's bs) - if it doesn't work out you might have an option to return later.
 
Beerbaron said:
Company A had their chance. If they didn't full fill their promises last time what makes you think they will this time.
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My thoughts exactly. Fair enough if they had put you though the training etc as promised however they had gone back on this.

Brexit is currently one big fat excuse and if they are currently using this as an excuse to freeze everything I would be very cautious. For people to push through the uncertain time ahead they need to be steamrolling to be ahead of the game, not stop everything because of the 'what if's?'.

Go with the bigger company, see how you get on!
 
I was in exactly the same position a few weeks ago. Got offered a new job elsewhere, current boss wanted to do everything he could to keep me. Offered me a raise, changes to what I did, and everything else. If I was so important, why not offer me this before I go looking elsewhere?

The counter offer could also just be used to buy more time to look for someone else to replace you eventually.
 
GinG said:
Brexit is currently one big fat excuse and if they are currently using this as an excuse to freeze everything I would be very cautious. For people to push through the uncertain time ahead they need to be steamrolling to be ahead of the game, not stop everything because of the 'what if's?'.
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This exactly, we haven't even initiated Article 50 yet so are they going to hide behind the Brexit forever.

As mentioned above I wouldn't take the counter offer but I would be politely declining it and leave on good terms as you never know whats round the corner, sometimes the bigger the company the bigger the fall.
 
Hellsmk2 said:
That's not a counter offer, it's an insult.

If they want you to stay, the offer should be better than the one you have accepted.
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Indeed, for you to even consider staying, a counter offer should be something like a 5% instant pay bump at the very least. Offering a development plan with 'promised' future raises sounds like a load of hot air. I don't know much about the specifics of the work, but it doesn't sound like it would be that hard to get a switch back to designing later on if you wanted.
 
You've not been given a counter-offer, you've had some smoke blown up you and presumably nothing in writing any more solid than "we will try to do this if circumstances permit".
 
Aedus said:
Just to update, I accepted the offer from the other company and today got kicked out of the office on Gardening-leave, so a month holiday before I start.
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Congratulations. Hopefully this is sure fire evidence that the promises made to you from your current firm would have been empty and never come to fruition.

You have made the right choice :D now enjoy the time off.
 
Aedus said:
Just to update, I accepted the offer from the other company and today got kicked out of the office on Gardening-leave, so a month holiday before I start.
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That's ridiculous, do companies never think?

If someone said to you " Oh you used to work for XYZ what were they like?" I would imagine your reply isn't going to be favourable.
 
It's standard practice in a lot of places. Stops you from causing chaos or stealing trade secrets.

In reality you could have been planning their demise months before, so take it with a pinch of salt. Enjoy your paid leave :)
 
EVH said:
It's standard practice in a lot of places. Stops you from causing chaos or stealing trade secrets.
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Is it really? No business I have worked for has ever forced anyone out when they have handed their notice in, they have all worked their 4-6 weeks notice period.

Going on holiday is a fantastic call, means you won't need to use any leave time in your new role for a while, also you start your new job with a great icebreaker to your new colleagues.
 
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