Court Case: woman tricked into sex with a woman pretending to be a man

[Pawnless Endgame]

Back in my days (early 1990s), we were taught as follows:

Straight - you go for the opposite sex i.e. "opposites attract"
Gay/lesbian - you go for the same sex
Transvestite - you dress up in drag
Transsexual - you've had the sex change operation
Poof - a man behaving like a woman

I think the stigma comes from the fact that there are too many terms these days. Didn't Facebook have something like 47 options on their drop-down menu? It's too many terms imo.

 

[Gilly]

Bitslice, I haven't declared anything at all. I did nothing but ask for more information.

 

[jsmoke]

I reckon she will appeal and get a lesser sentence. What law was she actually charged with?

 

[bitslice]

Bitslice, I haven't declared anything at all. I did nothing but ask for more information.

I was just going on this

I don't recognise it as a derogatory, demeaning or dehumanising term.

But if it gets discussed then that's OK

 

[Rofflay]

I reckon she will appeal and get a lesser sentence. What law was she actually charged with?

She may of got jail but non voilent offenders get tagged she will do around 12 months i reckon at the very harshest it would be half in jail half on tag.

Some people need to realise this woman may actually of been very stupid and vulnerable. The Judge who clearly had a look at the case deemed her intelligent and very manipulative and she had a story of disfugurement so made the person blindfold all the time.


She taped her chest and other places to hide her curves, Put on a mans voice and basically raped her according to the law. If she does not know what the law says about rape she should know that it was not consent. It was consent to sleep with a man yes, But a woman with a strapon no. Maybe 8 years is harsh but she still commited rape. Hopefully it will send a signal to transgender people to declare everything openly or risk being charged with rape.

 

[balky12]

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Relax dude. I don't know where to begin. You seem bounce between who's side your on? Or maybe you're not on a side?

I'm sure if ****** (seems to not like it, surprised, however if I called someone that I would get banned, and rightly so, simply using it I guess holds no punishment)) was used in context relating to its origins in a mature conversation it would be fine. Much like we are discussing tranny. Context is key. So you admit the transgender community is torn? So why is one side right and one wrong? Who decided that?

Please quote the whole thing re lafemme being bisexual. It makes a huge difference. Her views were that a transgender woman shouldn't need to disclose that information to a potential sexual partner as it makes no difference. Yes to a bisexual this is true. However to a Hetero guy it makes a big difference. Anyways why should someone be robbed of making an informed decision either way. Again back to my original point about the original topic, honesty and disclosure.

This is where you confuse me on the boring/ transphobe. You finding some peoples sexual orientation boring. Those were lafemmes words. But I guess we agree on this part. Slating someone for their sexual orientation is just immature and not the done thing on a forum.

I never said people's birth gender defines their sexuality. I said people's sexuality takes into account the other persons birth sex. At least for me it does. I have nothing against transgenders, just wouldn't sleep with one. Which I think is pretty fair. After all it's my decision. Why should someone be robbed of that decision?

Gilly has as much information as anyone in here. You admitted earlier it's a word that has mixed reactions within the community. All Gilly said is that he doesn't find it derogatory or offensive like the majority of us in here. Asking for a word to be banned, especially when it isn't being used in a derogatory way, but in discussion of the nature and origin of said word is pretty immature imo, especially when people start trying to get a moderator reviewed as well.

Anyways I've said my part numerous times.

 

[bitslice]

Hopefully it will send a signal to transgender people to declare everything openly or risk being charged with rape.

I don't imagine every single transgender person is sitting around plotting bizarre ways to deceive others into ***** sex.

Think about it, she used a *****, so she wasn't exactly getting a lot of satisfaction from the encounter other than the experience.

Deception isn't a new thing, lesbians and homosexuals have married and had children before deciding that it wasn't for them. Equally deceptive and damaging I reckon.



apparently ***** is blocked, think plastic pen is

 

[Schlong&Stable]

Deception isn't a new thing, lesbians and homosexuals have married and had children before deciding that it wasn't for them. Equally deceptive and damaging I reckon.

If your partner declares they are gay after years of marriage, you ought to be able to sue to flesh off their bones. Well, assuming you're not their gay partner in the first place.

 

[itchy]

If your partner declares they are gay after years of marriage, you ought to be able to sue to flesh off their bones. Well, assuming you're not their gay partner in the first place.

Sometimes people change.

Life is not set in stone and therefore neither is sexuality. Some people do change I can assure you.

 

[Rofflay]

If your partner declares they are gay after years of marriage, you ought to be able to sue to flesh off their bones. Well, assuming you're not their gay partner in the first place.

All goods should be declared upon arrival at checkpoint.


I personally only view someone as a man or a woman by birth, An operation or wearing the opposite genders clothes makes zero difference to me, And partly because you would like the victim in this thread never live it down. She lost all her friends and has to move i think? So if someone tricked me in any way i would demand jail time. And you can bet bitclice there ARE weird people out there thinking of deciptful ways. Heck we are reading about one right now what makes you think there are not more cases out there?


The more Transexual people out there with operations, The more trouble there is going to be what happens if they are classed as the opposite sex by law yet never declare it to a partner? I would be livid and sue and then demand jail time. This is not something i can help just like people who are gay, I was simply born straight and would expect 100% honesty. It would be the same with someone lying about thier sexual history as well. A big no no although no where near in the same severity.

 

[Schlong&Stable]

Sometimes people change.

Life is not set in stone and therefore neither is sexuality. Some people do change I can assure you.

If people's sexuality can change, then it's a choice.

Wasn't the whole concept of gay rights rooted in the notion that homosexuality was not a choice?

 

[Dis86]

If people's sexuality can change, then it's a choice.

Wasn't the whole concept of gay rights rooted in the notion that homosexuality was not a choice?

Very curious notion!

 

[Schlong&Stable]

Very curious notion!

What is curious about it? This is the message I have absorbed from media my entire life. I happen to believe it too, because I don't think I could ever choose to be homosexual.

If homosexuality is not a choice, then the entire argument behind gay rights falls apart. You don't need gay rights if you can just choose to not be gay.

 

[Rofflay]

What is curious about it? This is the message I have absorbed from media my entire life. I happen to believe it too, because I don't think I could ever choose to be homosexual.

If homosexuality is not a choice, then the entire argument behind gay rights falls apart. You don't need gay rights if you can just choose to not be gay.

They push that message yes, But it does not apply to everyone. You only have to look at some gay men to see they are much closer to being a woman than being a man.

I would love to see ground breaking research done to see what the influences were in these peoples lives. Is it a genetic mis-hap that has been going since the ancient greeks and before? Because at one point i thought it may of been an overly dominant mother or letting them play with girls and my little pony too much. But back 2000 years ago they still existed, And would neve rof had such influences. I believe that it is a genetic mis-hap in people like that. The people who do choose are those who are actually bi-sexual not gay.

 

[Dis86]

What is curious about it? This is the message I have absorbed from media my entire life. I happen to believe it too, because I don't think I could ever choose to be homosexual.

If homosexuality is not a choice, then the entire argument behind gay rights falls apart. You don't need gay rights if you can just choose to not be gay.

That's what's curious about it. However people shouldn't be forced to make a choice they don't want to.

 

[RoyMi6]

Think about it, she used a *****, so she wasn't exactly getting a lot of satisfaction from the encounter other than the experience.

No offence, but for all the talking you're doing and opinions you're writing down as gospel, this response here suggests to me that you have a lot to learn with regards to sexual relationships.

Deception isn't a new thing, lesbians and homosexuals have married and had children before deciding that it wasn't for them. Equally deceptive and damaging I reckon.

Sigh... You've heard of "peer pressure" yeah, like that time when you tried a drink before you're legally allowed it. You do realise the social pressure of the media, friends, family and (until VERY recently) the government might have had some influence on this. Add on the personal mental pressure and understand of oneself that some people never discover before committing suicide and you'll likely see where your "reckoning" is flawed.

EDIT: Some points and facts are getting confused here.

Some people like men, some people like women, some people like both, some people like other things.

Because one man marries a woman, then chooses to marry man does not mean that ALL men who marry men WOULD marry a woman.

Just like it does not suggest that all men would marry a man.

I'm not even touching on the gay/bi argument, this is just logic being applied incorrectly.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

The fact that there even has to be a discussion on this is astonishing.

What's even more astonishing is that you, a person of some seniority in a company you represent on the forums, think that it's perfectly fine to use those terms. What's the E&D courses like at OcUK Towers? If there is any, that is.

*edit, could an admin/mod please explain to me how the language used in this thread is not against the Member's Charter, and how the lack of action to rectify it is not against the Mission Statement?

Calm down Lucy, yes we know who you are.
Tranny is not derogatory, just go and put it into Google next to the word video.
I have a couple of Tranny friends who watch Tranny videos of Tranny's having Tranny sex.
Stop being a victim.

 

[itchy]

What is curious about it? This is the message I have absorbed from media my entire life. I happen to believe it too, because I don't think I could ever choose to be homosexual.

If homosexuality is not a choice, then the entire argument behind gay rights falls apart. You don't need gay rights if you can just choose to not be gay.

I don't think you can grasp the concept of the human body.

To you it might seem absurd or ludicrous but I can assure you people do change. Not all but a few do swap sides so to say and others become greedy and don't care.

 

[Mynight]

The thing is until it's known what caused it it's impossible to declare it as a choice or not. However who cares they will probably find sex with a woman just as weird as I find sex with a guy. Doesn't make it an issue in my opinion, leaves more women to reject me .

There's numerous refuted studies that claim a slight genetic component in which case it isn't a choice anymore than I chose to have brown hair I could dye it blonde to fit in but it will always be brown.

There's also a lot of studies that claim it's based on nurture such as an overprotective mother/being spurned by women at a young age. Again not really a choice as our memories are very hard to change. They make us who we are.

Even if it is a choice we still need gay rights to prevent discrimination against those that "chose" to be homosexual.

 

[Schlong&Stable]

I don't think you can grasp the concept of the human body.

The concept is very easy to understand, it's the details where it gets complicated.

To you it might seem absurd or ludicrous but I can assure you people do change. Not all but a few do swap sides so to say and others become greedy and don't care.

I would argue that someone you perceive as changing is simply "bisexual" from the get go. You don't change your sexuality, you just change your preference within the scope of what your predetermined sexuality is.

That's what's curious about it. However people shouldn't be forced to make a choice they don't want to.

We force people to do things all the time, it's called the law. Anyway, my point was that we don't need to provide legal protections for people's lifestyle choices. If you choose to renounce all material wealth, society doesn't owe it to you to accommodate your new lifestyle.