COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

Rroff said:
Really nasty run of colds going around here at the moment, doesn't seem to be COVID, think it is the same one as people getting the same horrendous runny nose/bunged up sinuses as above one of my colleagues still sounds bunged up weeks on, just started going around at my brother's work and he has got it at the moment :( so dunno if I'll escape it. So far not picked it up, at least symptomatically, from people at work or other acquaintances.
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We're seeing detection rates of RSV and Rhinovirus/Enterovirus going through the roof at the moment in our lab.
 
Today's email

Face Masks and Face to Face Meetings

As you know, the Trust’s Clinical Advisory Group meets regularly to review Covid-19 figures and our local guidance around meetings and face masks.

Following a brief peak, Covid-19 inpatient figures and emergency portal figures have significantly fallen and are now back down to where they were before the Trust re-introduced masks.

Therefore, from today (20 November 2023) the wearing of surgical masks is no longer required unless:

You are dealing with a suspected/confirmed Covid-19 patient
if you have a personal preference or
you are recommended to wear a mask as per personal risk assessment
In line with existing guidance, FFP3 masks will still be required when caring for confirmed or highly suspected Covid-19 and when undertaking aerosol generating procedures (AGP’s) on patients with a known or suspected infectious agent spread wholly or partly by the airborne or droplet route.

There remains a lot of respiratory viral infections circulating, not just Covid-19, so these measures will offer protection against those too.

Staff are reminded to continue with all other infection prevention measures such as thorough hand hygiene and being bare below the elbow and encouraged to book their flu and Covid -19 vaccination as soon as possible.

Face to face meetings may also resume.

We will continue to review guidance as necessary and inform staff of any further measures required.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
Today's email

Face Masks and Face to Face Meetings

As you know, the Trust’s Clinical Advisory Group meets regularly to review Covid-19 figures and our local guidance around meetings and face masks.

Following a brief peak, Covid-19 inpatient figures and emergency portal figures have significantly fallen and are now back down to where they were before the Trust re-introduced masks.

Therefore, from today (20 November 2023) the wearing of surgical masks is no longer required unless:

You are dealing with a suspected/confirmed Covid-19 patient
if you have a personal preference or
you are recommended to wear a mask as per personal risk assessment
In line with existing guidance, FFP3 masks will still be required when caring for confirmed or highly suspected Covid-19 and when undertaking aerosol generating procedures (AGP’s) on patients with a known or suspected infectious agent spread wholly or partly by the airborne or droplet route.

There remains a lot of respiratory viral infections circulating, not just Covid-19, so these measures will offer protection against those too.

Staff are reminded to continue with all other infection prevention measures such as thorough hand hygiene and being bare below the elbow and encouraged to book their flu and Covid -19 vaccination as soon as possible.

Face to face meetings may also resume.

We will continue to review guidance as necessary and inform staff of any further measures required.
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Christ on a bike.
 
No sign of COVID around here currently, but a nasty cold(s) going around :( was just thinking enough time I'd past I'd probably dodged the one my brother and a few others had, then a colleague came in with one yesterday and another today :( was feeling pretty under the weather Friday and Saturday so maybe had it mildly... maybe...
 
Freakbro said:
Makes me laugh when you look back at all the gobemouches who defended Boris so much.
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Did any developed countries do substantially better?

Makes me laugh that scientific advisors are falling over themselves saying we never saw that or our advice should have been more closely followed. The country would have been locked down for much longer, the economy would have been hit harder than it was and the health services hit hardest of all.

Waiting for Mr Jack to come back with how wonderful the German response to Covid was and how Europe is being so open in its dealings with covid, baring all as we do.
 
GIBURROWS said:
Have they distinguished the difference between covid and flu yet?
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What a stupid thing to post, how old are you 5?
I'd love people like you to spend a day in my shoes.
I'm betting you think we NHS staff are all paid actors going along with it :)
However for a lot of people at the moment, colds and flu are way worse than Covid.

Anyway - https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=how+do+you+test+for+covid+and+flu&sca_esv=584227035&sxsrf=AM9HkKngPB9fFBtTM2g5r1xu588rwo0pkA:1700555297043&source=hp&ei=IWpcZfQP5YSFsg_Rk63IDg&iflsig=AO6bgOgAAAAAZVx4Mar1o6-W9ogP2PImgs1Rp9INaHNx&ved=0ahUKEwi0pJiT1tSCAxVlQkEAHdFJC-kQ4dUDCAw&uact=5&oq=how+do+you+test+for+covid+and+flu&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IiFob3cgZG8geW91IHRlc3QgZm9yIGNvdmlkIGFuZCBmbHVI5FZQjgxY61JwAXgAkAEAmAFloAGdDqoBBDMyLjG4AQPIAQD4AQGoAgrCAgcQIxjqAhgnwgIHEC4Y6gIYJ8ICCxAAGIAEGLEDGIMBwgIREC4YgAQYsQMYgwEYxwEY0QPCAhEQLhiDARjHARixAxjRAxiABMICChAjGIAEGIoFGCfCAgQQIxgnwgIOEAAYgAQYigUYsQMYgwHCAggQABiABBixA8ICCxAAGIAEGIoFGLEDwgIFEAAYgATCAgQQABgDwgIKEAAYgAQYRhj_AcICCxAuGIAEGIoFGLEDwgIGEAAYFhgewgIFECEYoAHCAggQIRgWGB4YHcICCxAAGIAEGIoFGIYD&sclient=gws-wiz

Seriously how do you think they distinguish HIV from Hepatitis or Cancer from feeling really down?
THEY HAVE TESTS.
 
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Hagar said:
Did any developed countries do substantially better?
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Yes, the UK came up among the worst performers, despite having a massive natural advantage in the form of being an island nation:

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Makes me laugh that scientific advisors are falling over themselves saying we never saw that or our advice should have been more closely followed.
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Who, exactly, has said that? I haven't seen a single such claim.

The country would have been locked down for much longer, the economy would have been hit harder than it was and the health services hit hardest of all.
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Wrong. Lockdown was longer and harder because they locked down too late. Not only were more lives lost but there was more economic damage as a result.

Waiting for Mr Jack to come back with how wonderful the German response to Covid was
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Nope. Germany's response was better overall than the UK, but hardly a model of how to proceed. They varied between competency and idiocy just as much as any other nation, several of the states were run by fools, and the East had a major problem with vaccine uptake. Germany's biggest problem, though, was that with 13 land borders there was always at least one of their neighbours make a hash of things and sending a spike of cases spilling across the border.
 
Hagar said:
Did any developed countries do substantially better?
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We are talking about Boris, not the UKs response, that obviously now is shown to have happened in spite of, rather than due to, Bozo the clown.

But we get it, you guys are easily manipulated by feckless grifters and stupid, weak and ineffectual leaders are what you look up to.

I remember when you got rather sniffy about Trump's description of he's a stupid person's version of an intelligent person. Another similarity to our Boris :cry:
 
SexyGreyFox said:
What a stupid thing to post, how old are you 5?
I'd love people like you to spend a day in my shoes.
I'm betting you think we NHS staff are all paid actors going along with it :)
However for a lot of people at the moment, colds and flu are way worse than Covid.

Anyway - https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=how+do+you+test+for+covid+and+flu&sca_esv=584227035&sxsrf=AM9HkKngPB9fFBtTM2g5r1xu588rwo0pkA:1700555297043&source=hp&ei=IWpcZfQP5YSFsg_Rk63IDg&iflsig=AO6bgOgAAAAAZVx4Mar1o6-W9ogP2PImgs1Rp9INaHNx&ved=0ahUKEwi0pJiT1tSCAxVlQkEAHdFJC-kQ4dUDCAw&uact=5&oq=how+do+you+test+for+covid+and+flu&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IiFob3cgZG8geW91IHRlc3QgZm9yIGNvdmlkIGFuZCBmbHVI5FZQjgxY61JwAXgAkAEAmAFloAGdDqoBBDMyLjG4AQPIAQD4AQGoAgrCAgcQIxjqAhgnwgIHEC4Y6gIYJ8ICCxAAGIAEGLEDGIMBwgIREC4YgAQYsQMYgwEYxwEY0QPCAhEQLhiDARjHARixAxjRAxiABMICChAjGIAEGIoFGCfCAgQQIxgnwgIOEAAYgAQYigUYsQMYgwHCAggQABiABBixA8ICCxAAGIAEGIoFGLEDwgIFEAAYgATCAgQQABgDwgIKEAAYgAQYRhj_AcICCxAuGIAEGIoFGLEDwgIGEAAYFhgewgIFECEYoAHCAggQIRgWGB4YHcICCxAAGIAEGIoFGIYD&sclient=gws-wiz

Seriously how do you think they distinguish HIV from Hepatitis or Cancer from feeling really down?
THEY HAVE TESTS.
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No I don't think you are a paid actor and no I'm not 5, I do however think you're most likely over paid and underworked.

The reason I asked my question was because even on the who website flu disappeared and covid took over at very, very similar numbers.
 
Hagar said:
Actually the thread is about covid and the UK response, not Boris, however much you like to.
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And the UK response was completely hampered by Boris, as has been described by the people involved, so is a perfectly appropriate discussion point ITT, however much you want to deflect from your embarrassing support of him.
 
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