COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion
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After the years of "the other side" jerking each other off with stats, endless chart readings, doomer predictions, screechings about vaccinations, restricting peoples rights and creating a thread of extreme intolerance (go back through the pages if you want a good cringe) I don't think it's any harm some people post contrarian viewpoints.
For me I find it amusing after years and years of people being sceptical of "pharma" and their abysmal track record (and judging by some of my friends that work in the industries in Basel I'm not surprised
) that it was all forgotten in a heartbeat.I didn't care about covid and didn't care that much by the vaccines myself. I just care about the impact on society and I'm pretty sure it's been one of the psychologically more damaging events in human history.
Here is another example of covid vaccine damage to an innocent woman who also discusses vaccine damage to a friend. I'll let the eminent Doctor John Campbell present:
Appalling vaccine injury
Brianne Dressen, first US lawsuit against AstraZenecaCovid Vaccine Injury Global Study: www.react19.org/studyCovid vaccine injury medical expense fund: www.r...www.youtube.com
My son has worked hard to get were he is now and can apply more than a plaster. I would take notice of him over some person just shooting their mouth off on the Internet. We a very proud of what he has achieved and of the NHS workers.
Soldato
When treated as anything other than your personal belief with zero proof and you go around trying to convert everyone else to your belief, then yes, its a very bad thing.
Soldato
Here is another example of covid vaccine damage to an innocent woman who also discusses vaccine damage to a friend. I'll let the eminent Doctor John Campbell present:
Appalling vaccine injury
Brianne Dressen, first US lawsuit against AstraZenecaCovid Vaccine Injury Global Study: www.react19.org/studyCovid vaccine injury medical expense fund: www.r...
Eminent doctor? You know his PHD is in nurse training with digital media right? He was a nurse. I think its a disgrace he uses Dr before his name when talking about medical matters, if he wants to use Dr when talking in the medical field he should go back to school and become qualified as an actual medical doctor. His page was ok at the beginning and then he saw the $ that could be made by embracing the anti vax crowd and he went fully after it. Part of me might respect it, we live in a capitalist society after all but then the same could be said for Andrew Wakefield and we know what a disgrace he is and the damage he did scaring parents with his lies for $ and bought about the rise of measles again, a disease that is far from harmless and many children have been left with life changing health issues down to his greed and lack of ethics.
Soldato
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oh god a climate change denier as well. why am I not surprised.
Soldato
I'm waiting for him to bring up 5G and chemtrails.
Only today? They've been fed well in this thread the last couple of weeks.I see the Conspiracy Morons are out in force again today.
Commissario
I'm going to politely point out that this is an absolutely stupid line of "reasoning" to take, as at the very least it makes you seem exceptionally ignorant of what an ambulance crew do - they don't just "drive and apply a plaster", they're at the very least qualified to treat injuries and basic infection control (they need to be to protect themselves and their patients).
IIRC it takes something like a 15-18 months of training to reach the minimum qualification to work as the lowest level of ambulance crew these days.
Unless you're living in the 40's and think "grab and go" is still a thing for ambulance crews...
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i must admit I always thought even the driver was a fully qualified paramedic. seems I am wrong, but even so some of the comments made against what is still clearly a v qualified job are out of order.
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They also have to do work while being assessed at first to make sure that they are competent. My son really started down the medical route when he was 8yrs old by going to the local St. John's Ambulance. He did courses there that gave him the Ambulance training in his 20's. He has worked for the NHS since he was 18, (he's 40 next month). He started out as an NA but even then he was more than qualified for the job and ended up showing the newly qualified doctors and nurses how things were set up and done on the ward he worked on. He then moved onto Urgent Care Ambulance (taking non critical patients to hospital) and then the Emergency Ambulance when a job opportunity arose. So yes a bit more than putting a plaster on.
No, I think they are paired as best they can be due to shift patterns, they call out Paramedics if they deem it necessary.
Indeed - and some EMS responders can be trained in a vast range of areas and able to do advanced critical care outside of a hospital environment.
Commissario
IIRC there are "ambulance drivers" who only drive patient transport type vehicles and are less qualified, but even then they from memory have to have basic medical and care training because they're usually transporting people who are either quite ill, elderly or infirm and whilst they're not dealing with "blood gushing and broken bones" they are dealing with people who may need rather more assistance than driver only training allows for. I suspect even they are trained in "infection control" given they'll often be dealing with patients who are highly susceptible to infections such as people going for cancer treatment and dialysis, or elderly patients who may be from care homes.
I think normal (emergency) ambulances are crewed by either a tech and a paramedic or two paramedics at the minimum, the difference basically being the paramedic is qualified for more advanced work (invasive and more medications), whilst the tech is trained in advanced emergency first aid and may be training to become a paramedic.
Yup IIRC Going back about 15 years I remember reading a blog by a paramedic who had transferred over from being a (senior?) A&E and I think ICU nurse, he still needed additional training on the medical side before being a paramedic because IIRC a paramedic on a call is expected and required to do some things that nurses normally need a doctor's supervision for and they don't have the time to get approval.
It amazes me that people still think or at least call ambulance crew "drivers" in this day and age given that it's been something like 40 years since that was in any way a true description of what they're actually qualified and expected to do.
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To be honest, he was basically a Technician when he was doing St John's. He could do things from his St John's training that he couldn't do when he started on the wards, like use a defib. Werewolf is correct
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I'd highly recommend anyone to do at least the basic courses if they get the chance - you won't necessarily remember all the training but it gives you a useful mental framework for dealing with situations - I'm trained for level 3 hazardous workplaces in first aid.
So walking around a supermarket yesterday I saw one mask wearer - well I say "wearer" but he had it below his chin and stayed like that as we walked round. Given mask wearing has long since ceased to be mandatory and so few people now bother - if you go out of your way to wear one why wouldnt you wear it correctly ??
This is not the first time I have seen this either. Plus you till sometimes see people with the silly little printed cotton masks rather than a proper one - again why ?
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This is not the first time I have seen this either. Plus you till sometimes see people with the silly little printed cotton masks rather than a proper one - again why ?
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My guess is they interact in some way with someone who is still mask wearing or vulnerable i.e. someone caring for an elderly person - go to said person's house with mask on, pick up shopping list, go shopping, take shopping back putting mask back on, etc. and stuff like that. (I've encountered a small number of people who still wear masks due to affects of long COVID and not wanting to get it again especially people who've had like weeks or months of vertigo post having COVID).
What I find odd is how you'll suddenly get one day where you'll see loads of people wearing masks again maybe even 20-25% of people, then for days barely see 1 person, and I still quite a bit see the one that winds a certain forum member up of a couple of people driving along with blue surgical masks on in the car. (As an aside if someone is infectious in a car a basic mask offers about 10% protection in the first 20 or 30 minutes or so and rapidly decreases after that).
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Soldato
You don't know what their story is. Maybe they care for someone with a compromised immune system, maybe they do themselves but were being lazy with it at that minute. A friend of mine recently had to have all her bone marrow killed and her own stem cells genetically altered and grown put back in to replace her killed off bone marrow as a treatment for a cancer that keeps coming back. She had to wear a mask for months as her immune system took a long time to get back up to speed. She said she got looks and even comments from people about wearing it. She was tempted to tell them that mRNA was also a vital part of her treatment just to see their faces. I still see the occasional person and simply ignore it, its none of my damned business.