CPU TEMPS TOO HIGH , HELP!

[mkohman]

Hey Guys,

I have an Antec P183 Case and an intel i7 920 with an Corsair H50 cooler.. I installed real temp to check my temps and whils idle they are around 65-72 degrees ??? I purchased IC thermal paste 24 Carrot one and applied that today and they are still running at similar temps?

The only overclocking I did to my Gigabyte EX58 UD5 motherboard is change the:

CPU CLOCK RATIO X20
BCLK FREQ TO X 190 - for a 3.80 GHZ Overclock
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Disabled Turbo boost Tech
Performance Enhance to Standard

The rest is all on Auto.. didn't mess with voltages left all on auto..

On the Corsair H50 I have a 120mm Noctua Fan blowing air full speed into the radiator.. Shall I add another 120mm fan the other side blowing aire into the radiator again or shall I make one blow air in and the other to blow air out of the radiator.. will this make any difference? Also are my Overclocking settings ok or shall I change them ?

Thanks for all your help..

 

[mkohman]

Yes, if you added another fan you need to run a push/pull setup - e.g. one pushing air through the rad and the other fan oriantated so that it pulls air through - so that they compliment each other and increase the overall airflow through the rad.

Thank you for your help really appreciate this.. I am sure I did the termal paste correctly .. I spread it evenly and the H50 is tightley screwed on and is all perfectly fitted .. I have one 120mm at the moment which is screwed to the back of the case .. it is bringing air into the radiator.. shall I reverse this and make it blow air out of the radiator from the back of the case and then introduce another 120mm fan from the right side of the radiator blowing air into the radiator? do you think this may help?

My vcor is auto but when I check CPU-z its around 1.325 or 1.365 something like this..

Thanks for your advice..

 

[mkohman]

Thanks for all your help guys.. indeed I plugged the wire coming from the H50 pump into the CPU fan shall I plug that into the case fan and the fan that airs the rad into the cpu fan? Please advise?

Also I tried to evenly spread the IC Diamond paste to the whole cpu which I now see was the wrong method.. I thought this wasnt right as it is so thick and almost like silicone.. I may have applied too much .. I will definitely remove the paste and apply a blob in the centre after cleaning the cpu. I will also introduce another fan and make a push pull configuration from case into the radiator and then from radiator out of the case. just hope there is another fan power unit to plug it in.. I have the top fan 120mm pushing air out of the case and one 120mm in the front puching air into the case..

thanks for all your help and advice.. do you think I will be ok once I applied these methods? Many thanks

 

[mkohman]

thanks for all your great help guys.. please can one of you guys advise me if its ok to plug it into the motherboards system fan pins or must I get a molexconvertor? If so which pin can I plug it in? I have the Gigabyte EX58 UD5 (Rev 1.0) mobo .. otherwise please can you show me what this molex adaptor looks like please?

Many Thanks.. much appreciated

 

[mkohman]

it will be fine to plug it into your motherboard. you will have to check in the BIOS that the 3 pin connectors are giving out full power. im not sure how you do this, but im sure someone can give you step by step instructions for it

otherwise, you will want something like this:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CB-012-AK&groupid=1929&catid=153&subcat=

you can plug either a male molex or a female molex connector into it to supply power (it has slots for either) to the three pin cable from your pump.

my case has one of those exact cables to power the front intake fan

Thats great. thank you will check to see if I have a spare molex with the adaptor.. also can anyone here please gide me how to do this in bios if possible? I am using the F13j bios on the Gigabyte EX58 UD5 mobo..
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Just a quick note.. just to confirm I shouldn't plug the cable from the pump into the cpu fan socket on the mobo is that correct? I should plug it into the system fan socket right? Thanks

 

[mkohman]

Thanks guys.. sorry I wasn't being lazy I am just not at home.. I am still at work and finish ealry hrs in morning 02:00 am .. I will definitely do this tomorrow morning.. I shall try this before I take the h50 coller off the cpu and re apply the IC Diamond 24 c paste see how it is if still high I will; re apply the paste.. and try again..
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Thanks OLDPHART.. Shall I just plug it into that input as you say? will I need to configure it in Bios or is this already on 12 v? Thanks buddy.. Also which overclock settings would you reccomend for a fellow mobo user? I have the interl i7 920 and 12 gb ram Corsair XMS 3 6 x 2 GB timings are 9 9 9 24 on the ram.. Thanks

 

[mkohman]

Hi mkohman, theres an easier way > leave the Pump 4 pin Header on CPU_Header > mobo manual > page 59 look at the bottom of the page and read > CPU SMART FAN CONTROL > Note the Bottom line > If disabled, the CPU will run at Full Speed [default Enabled] This works m8 as l have my Water Pump running of it.


So go to Main Menu of Bios > scroll down to the Bottom > Enter PC Health Status > scroll down to the 2nd bottom one, you'll come to CPU Smart Fan Control > it will be Enabled by default > Disable It.


Job Sorted, Check your pump speed.

Thanks for the tip but this morning I already replaced it to the power fan which is where you told me yesterday to the right side of the cpu .. and I believe its fully working now as its readin 1400 rpm.. Also my temps are 35-38 in idle .. I also did the IC Diamond 24 carrot application in the blob style and seems a lot better now .. My GOD that was so hard to clean from cpu and heat sink.. its sooo thick

Please can you let me know what overclock settings I should use if you dont mind?
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Also I purchased a new 128GB Crucial M4 SSD and the first thing I did was to flash the firmware to 002 version which is the latest version.. After this I also purchased an Asus U3S6 card which supports SATA III 6gbps placed it onto the mobo x 4 PCI card.. This is what I wanted to ask you it says x 4 PCI slot but you can put on the x 8 and the x 16 PCI slot .. However when I contacted Asus to ask what would be the best slot to use he says you can use any but the cards limits are x 4 PCI so there is no poin and there will be no gain in speed or performance even if you plug it in the x 16 PCI slot .. is this correct ? Please can you guys advise? Many Thanks..

 

[mkohman]

you have the connectors in the right place. what OLDPHART was recommending would mean the fan would be running at full speed all the time, because you would have disabled the changing fan speed in relation to CPU temp

for overclock settings i have literally no idea

the addon card you have cannot work at higher than x4 speeds as it only has an x4 connector. x16 and x8 slots just happen to be backwards compatable with the smaller slots.

your controller card, being an x4 will have a connector at the bottom similar to this one:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/pimg/CC-022-HP_400.jpg
if you look at the majority of graphics cards, they have x16 connectors. these are exactly the same as x4's, but extended:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/pimg/GX-129-MS_400.jpg

the card will not run any faster if it was put in an x16 slot as it doesnt have the extra connections of an x16 connector (because it doesnt need them)

Thanks a lot bro.. makes a lot more sense now you put it that way thank you..

Also do you think my temps being at 35-38 with non overclocked settings is ok , normal? thanks!

 

[mkohman]

Hi, glad its sorted, if you have any trouble put it back on the CPU Header and Disable CPU smart control. As for overclocking theres plenty of info on the net, and have a good read + pick the one with the lowest voltages. Just seem you have 12GB ram, this makes overclocking a bit harder really 6GB is good enough.

Google > X58A UD5/12gb DDR3/i7 920 overclocked, something like that.

Thank you.. normally I just change the Blck to 190 mhz and the multiplier to 20 to get 3.8 ghz and leave the rest all on auto.. is this not reccomended?

 

[mkohman]

Yes, you can leave it on Auto, but l prefure to have the correct voltages, etc, as when you just use Auto they usually feed a bit to much voltage, so by getting the voltage settings, etc, you might lower your temps a couple of degrees. But by doing a bit reseach on the net you will have a better understanding of the art of overclocking, also look up how to use and set up your Dymanic Vcore[DVID] in your Bios it lowers the CPU Vcore abit more, l'v been using it no problems at all, check it out in your manual use the one in the Bios not the software one..

thanks.. dynamic vcore I will check this out and see whats it all about. how would you reccomend I set the Ram up please? ont the ram it says 9 9 9 24 1.65 v .. shall I just set the timings for 9 9 9 24 and leave the rest on auto? thanks
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[mkohman]

Thanks Plec,

OldPhart.. I hope this is not too much to ask but our set up is very similar.. please can you be so kind enough to email me you bios setup as a guide ref so I can use and tweak whatevers necessary please..
Thanks bro really appreciate all you guys help.. this forum is amazing..

 

[mkohman]

Check your mail.

PS-use trust to contact peeps.

This.

And if that's one of your main email accounts shown above i would edit post #17 and delete it.

Thanks guys..

 

[mkohman]

Managed to get a reliable OC with vcore at 1.32500, block x 190, muliplier x20 for a 3.8ghz OC of my intel i7 920.. the timings for the 12 gb ram are 9 9 9 24 for the corsair XMS3 1600 mhz running at 1535mhz..
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Cpu temps are 75-80 degrees full load running intel burn test .. did 12 test at 8 cores and standard level..

do you think this is any good guys ? OLDPHART what do you think? Thanks

 

[mkohman]

Hi bud, yes thats ok, your temps will be a lot cooler with normal use.

Thanks for reply Old Phart, just a quick one.. shall I change my multiplier to x 21 and the block to 191 to get 4.0ghz and lowert the vcore and mess with the qpi voltage? or just keep it simple and stay with what I have?

With what I have when I did the intel burn test I was hitting 80 degress is that normal .. thanks

 

[mkohman]

I've generally found that 191x21 has required less voltage than 200x20, so that is what I would use. Lower voltages are always good as long as its stable, less heat generation etc.

You can leave pretty much everything on auto, one thing I'd suggest changing is the memory timing and voltage to what is on the side of the module and try to get the memory speed to under what the modules are rated for. So if it is 1600MHz modules then you want the divider that gives you approx 1528MHz. Also set the PCI-E clock to 100MHz and then change the vCore and QPI voltage as required. There is really no need to disable anything else imho.

There is a good guide here: http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/overclocking/22106-core-i7-overclocking-guide-beginners.html

Also make sure you stress test with Prime95 Blend and I also use LinX with All Memory selected. I use short bursts of each, so say 1 hour of Prime95 Blend and 30 minutes of LinX All Memory right after. If it passes both then there is a good chance it is stable, dial back the voltage and test again until you run into problems. Then go back up slightly and do longer runs. I use both again, one after another, they seem to create errors in different ways I've had something Prime95 blend stable for 8 hours and then fail LinX in 30 minutes and vise versa so hence my method.

If you get any BSOD, note down the code, eg 0x000124. If it automatically reboots before you can see the code it aso comes up in the little error box that pops up when you get back into Windows. Or disable automatic restart (Computer > Properties > Advanced system settings > Startup and Recovery Settings > Untick Automatically Restart). You can use these error codes to help with what needs changing using following link under X58: http://www.overclock.net/general-pr...0091-complete-list-bsod-codes-when-ocing.html

80c is fine, anything sub 90c under load testing is fine, it won't hit that in normal use.

thanks for the tip bud just a quick one what would you reccomend me to start my qpi voltage and the vcore ? I will obviousley then work my way to less and less volts untill unstable.. and then back up.

the side of my ram says 9 9 9 24 1.65 v so in the timings I already set them to 9 9 9 24 but my volt is on auto shall I change the Dram volt to 1.65 is that what you mean? Thanks

 

[mkohman]

It is hard to say as each chip is different but 1.35v is a good place to start for both. Most will require less so you can work your way down.

Auto ram voltage should be fine although I generally set it fixed at 1.65v just to avoid the possibility of it under volting and causing issues.

Thanks I will set both vcore and my qpi at 1.35 in that case and work my way down.. when I do this which do I work on first? the vcore and then the qpi?

Also won't running the ram at 1.65 damage them or kill the ram soon?

 

[mkohman]

Yes, Vcore is the key one so start with that first.

As for the ram voltage if 1.65v is what is written on the side the module then that that is what you use. It isn't going to damage or reduce the lifespan of the memory. The memory may work at lower voltages but the timings, speed and voltage on the side of the module is what the manufacture has tested and rated them at. So use that to avoid any unnessary problems while overclocking.

thanks for the great tips.. is there anything I need to disable? Like shall I disable intel Turbo boost etc.. or leave that on .. ? Also what about c3/c6/c7 state disable or enabel and finally how about Load Line Calibration enabled or disabled?

shall I leave performance enhance on Turbo or change to standard?

I will change my multiplier to x 21 and my block to 190 or 191? And when working my way down from vcore and qpi do I do them together or go down on the vcore untill unstable then back one step up and then down on the qpi or do I go down together each time..

sorry for lots of questions but if I know the answer to these I think I will understand what I am doing a lot better Thanks mate

 

[mkohman]

when I input Blck of 191 I am getting 4.01 GHZ with x 21 multiplier. my ram set to 1536mhz with all volts on auto but the vcore at 1.3250 qpi auto .. pc stable in intel burn test maximum temp was 77 on temp check.. when I put my voltage for ram at 1.66 my ram is almost frying when I touch it.. so I set it to auto again.. I was worried ram will burn out.. This is such a hit and miss .. is it really worth do you guys think or shall I go to stock settings? I mean I have 12 gb ddr 3 ram an intel 17 920 at 2.6 but 2.88 with turbo enabled etc.. ssd drive etc. aint this good enough for adobe premier pr ? I mean do I really need the extra cpu performance.. will I notice a big difference? Thanks

 

[mkohman]

You will notice the difference in certain tasks, maybe go for a mild overclock like 3.5GHz.

The memory shouldn't get that hot, I personally wouldn't leave the QPI on auto, I expect that might be one of your problems. If it does fail you can replace it under warranty anyways, but this is very unlikely at below the rated speed.

When the memory voltage is on auto and you reboot back into BIOS, what does it read?

Does the memory get as hot on Auto? Under the same conditions.... Intel Burn Test etc?

To be honest with you I think I am going to go for a 3.4 overclock .. thats probably more realistic for my setup.. however shall I keep the multiplier at x 21 and drop the blck or drop the multiplier to x 20 and then play with the block accordingley?

in bios it registeres 12 gb all the time.. so no problems. are you sayong I should set my ram voltage at 1.66v no matter what and then set my qpi to 1.30 and vcore to 1.300.00 and work my way from there? thanks..

shall I turn off hyper threading as some report this is causing excess heat?

 

[mkohman]

Anything around 3.4GHz-3.6GHz should easily achievable with acceptable voltages. Yes keep the multiplier at its highest and lower the Base clock (BCLK).

What I'm saying is because you've overclocked it you might be checking the RAM temperature more than you would at stock speeds because you are worried about it. So for you all you know it could be running that hot at stock.

If you set the Ram voltage on Auto and near the rated timings and Speeds it should be around 1.65v anyways. That is what they are designed and rated to run at, so there is no harm in manually setting it to 1.66v and what ever the timings are. Most people do this to rule out the memory causing problems.

Hyper threading is useful so I'd keep it on as long as CPU temps are sub 80c under load, it has very little effect on RAM temp as far as I'm aware. At 3.4GHz you should have no problem leaving it on and getting some good temps.

Are you running 12GB as 3 modules of 4GB or 6 modules of 2GB?

Thanks for the reply. I am running 12g as 6 x 2gb 9 9 9 24 1.65v corsair xms3 ddr3 ram.. I will set the ram volt to 1.66 no problem .. I agress however I think the problem I am having is with the vcore and qpi.. how should I start them off? Shall I set both at 1.30 and work my wa with the vcore first then the qpi or how does it work? this is where I am messing up honestly..