CPU TEMPS TOO HIGH , HELP!

OLDPHART · 7 Jul 2011 at 17:25

Hi, glad its sorted, if you have any trouble put it back on the CPU Header and Disable CPU smart control. As for overclocking theres plenty of info on the net, and have a good read + pick the one with the lowest voltages. Just seem you have 12GB ram, this makes overclocking a bit harder really 6GB is good enough.

Google > X58A UD5/12gb DDR3/i7 920 overclocked, something like that.

mkohman · 7 Jul 2011 at 17:40

OLDPHART said:
Hi, glad its sorted, if you have any trouble put it back on the CPU Header and Disable CPU smart control. As for overclocking theres plenty of info on the net, and have a good read + pick the one with the lowest voltages. Just seem you have 12GB ram, this makes overclocking a bit harder really 6GB is good enough.

Google > X58A UD5/12gb DDR3/i7 920 overclocked, something like that.

Thank you.. normally I just change the Blck to 190 mhz and the multiplier to 20 to get 3.8 ghz and leave the rest all on auto.. is this not reccomended?

OLDPHART · 7 Jul 2011 at 18:09

Yes, you can leave it on Auto, but l prefure to have the correct voltages, etc, as when you just use Auto they usually feed a bit to much voltage, so by getting the voltage settings, etc, you might lower your temps a couple of degrees. But by doing a bit reseach on the net you will have a better understanding of the art of overclocking, also look up how to use and set up your Dymanic Vcore[DVID] in your Bios it lowers the CPU Vcore abit more, l'v been using it no problems at all, check it out in your manual use the one in the Bios not the software one..

mkohman · 7 Jul 2011 at 18:32

OLDPHART said:
Yes, you can leave it on Auto, but l prefure to have the correct voltages, etc, as when you just use Auto they usually feed a bit to much voltage, so by getting the voltage settings, etc, you might lower your temps a couple of degrees. But by doing a bit reseach on the net you will have a better understanding of the art of overclocking, also look up how to use and set up your Dymanic Vcore[DVID] in your Bios it lowers the CPU Vcore abit more, l'v been using it no problems at all, check it out in your manual use the one in the Bios not the software one..

thanks.. dynamic vcore I will check this out and see whats it all about.

how would you reccomend I set the Ram up please? ont the ram it says 9 9 9 24 1.65 v .. shall I just set the timings for 9 9 9 24 and leave the rest on auto? thanks
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Reaper 392 · 7 Jul 2011 at 18:34

mkohman said:
Thanks a lot bro.. makes a lot more sense now you put it that way thank you..

Also do you think my temps being at 35-38 with non overclocked settings is ok , normal? thanks!

yeh, that sounds about normal to me. i know its a different chip, and a different cooler, but my PC is idling at 35C. im pretty sure the phenom is a much cooler chip though

Plec · 7 Jul 2011 at 18:38

As above, those temps look normal for a i7 920 - looks like you're virtually sorted.

mkohman · 7 Jul 2011 at 18:50

Thanks Plec,

OldPhart.. I hope this is not too much to ask but our set up is very similar.. please can you be so kind enough to email me you bios setup as a guide ref so I can use and tweak whatevers necessary please..
Thanks bro really appreciate all you guys help.. this forum is amazing..

OLDPHART · 7 Jul 2011 at 19:37

Check your mail.

PS-use trust to contact peeps.

Plec · 7 Jul 2011 at 20:13

OLDPHART said:
PS-use trust to contact peeps.

This.

And if that's one of your main email accounts shown above i would edit post #17 and delete it.

mkohman · 7 Jul 2011 at 20:25

OLDPHART said:
Check your mail.

PS-use trust to contact peeps.

Plec said:
This.

And if that's one of your main email accounts shown above i would edit post #17 and delete it.

Thanks guys..

mkohman · 8 Jul 2011 at 21:49

Managed to get a reliable OC with vcore at 1.32500, block x 190, muliplier x20 for a 3.8ghz OC of my intel i7 920.. the timings for the 12 gb ram are 9 9 9 24 for the corsair XMS3 1600 mhz running at 1535mhz..
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Cpu temps are 75-80 degrees full load running intel burn test .. did 12 test at 8 cores and standard level..

do you think this is any good guys ? OLDPHART what do you think? Thanks

OLDPHART · 9 Jul 2011 at 00:41

Hi bud, yes thats ok, your temps will be a lot cooler with normal use.

mkohman · 9 Jul 2011 at 01:58

OLDPHART said:
Hi bud, yes thats ok, your temps will be a lot cooler with normal use.

Thanks for reply Old Phart, just a quick one.. shall I change my multiplier to x 21 and the block to 191 to get 4.0ghz and lowert the vcore and mess with the qpi voltage? or just keep it simple and stay with what I have?

With what I have when I did the intel burn test I was hitting 80 degress

is that normal .. thanks

Speed · 9 Jul 2011 at 02:36

I've generally found that 191x21 has required less voltage than 200x20, so that is what I would use. Lower voltages are always good as long as its stable, less heat generation etc.

You can leave pretty much everything on auto, one thing I'd suggest changing is the memory timing and voltage to what is on the side of the module and try to get the memory speed to under what the modules are rated for. So if it is 1600MHz modules then you want the divider that gives you approx 1528MHz. Also set the PCI-E clock to 100MHz and then change the vCore and QPI voltage as required. There is really no need to disable anything else imho.

There is a good guide here: http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/overclocking/22106-core-i7-overclocking-guide-beginners.html

Also make sure you stress test with Prime95 Blend and I also use LinX with All Memory selected. I use short bursts of each, so say 1 hour of Prime95 Blend and 30 minutes of LinX All Memory right after. If it passes both then there is a good chance it is stable, dial back the voltage and test again until you run into problems. Then go back up slightly and do longer runs. I use both again, one after another, they seem to create errors in different ways I've had something Prime95 blend stable for 8 hours and then fail LinX in 30 minutes and vise versa so hence my method.

If you get any BSOD, note down the code, eg 0x000124. If it automatically reboots before you can see the code it aso comes up in the little error box that pops up when you get back into Windows. Or disable automatic restart (Computer > Properties > Advanced system settings > Startup and Recovery Settings > Untick Automatically Restart). You can use these error codes to help with what needs changing using following link under X58: http://www.overclock.net/general-pr...0091-complete-list-bsod-codes-when-ocing.html

80c is fine, anything sub 90c under load testing is fine, it won't hit that in normal use.

mkohman · 9 Jul 2011 at 03:12

Speed said:
I've generally found that 191x21 has required less voltage than 200x20, so that is what I would use. Lower voltages are always good as long as its stable, less heat generation etc.

You can leave pretty much everything on auto, one thing I'd suggest changing is the memory timing and voltage to what is on the side of the module and try to get the memory speed to under what the modules are rated for. So if it is 1600MHz modules then you want the divider that gives you approx 1528MHz. Also set the PCI-E clock to 100MHz and then change the vCore and QPI voltage as required. There is really no need to disable anything else imho.

There is a good guide here: http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/overclocking/22106-core-i7-overclocking-guide-beginners.html

Also make sure you stress test with Prime95 Blend and I also use LinX with All Memory selected. I use short bursts of each, so say 1 hour of Prime95 Blend and 30 minutes of LinX All Memory right after. If it passes both then there is a good chance it is stable, dial back the voltage and test again until you run into problems. Then go back up slightly and do longer runs. I use both again, one after another, they seem to create errors in different ways I've had something Prime95 blend stable for 8 hours and then fail LinX in 30 minutes and vise versa so hence my method.

If you get any BSOD, note down the code, eg 0x000124. If it automatically reboots before you can see the code it aso comes up in the little error box that pops up when you get back into Windows. Or disable automatic restart (Computer > Properties > Advanced system settings > Startup and Recovery Settings > Untick Automatically Restart). You can use these error codes to help with what needs changing using following link under X58: http://www.overclock.net/general-pr...0091-complete-list-bsod-codes-when-ocing.html

80c is fine, anything sub 90c under load testing is fine, it won't hit that in normal use.

thanks for the tip bud

just a quick one what would you reccomend me to start my qpi voltage and the vcore ? I will obviousley then work my way to less and less volts untill unstable.. and then back up.

the side of my ram says 9 9 9 24 1.65 v so in the timings I already set them to 9 9 9 24 but my volt is on auto shall I change the Dram volt to 1.65 is that what you mean? Thanks

Speed · 9 Jul 2011 at 03:17

It is hard to say as each chip is different but 1.35v is a good place to start for both. Most will require less so you can work your way down.

Auto ram voltage should be fine although I generally set it fixed at 1.65v just to avoid the possibility of it under volting and causing issues.

mkohman · 9 Jul 2011 at 03:29

Speed said:
It is hard to say as each chip is different but 1.35v is a good place to start for both. Most will require less so you can work your way down.

Auto ram voltage should be fine although I generally set it fixed at 1.65v just to avoid the possibility of it under volting and causing issues.

Thanks I will set both vcore and my qpi at 1.35 in that case and work my way down.. when I do this which do I work on first? the vcore and then the qpi?

Also won't running the ram at 1.65 damage them or kill the ram soon?

Speed · 9 Jul 2011 at 03:36

mkohman said:
Thanks I will set both vcore and my qpi at 1.35 in that case and work my way down.. when I do this which do I work on first? the vcore and then the qpi?

Also won't running the ram at 1.65 damage them or kill the ram soon?

Yes, Vcore is the key one so start with that first.

As for the ram voltage if 1.65v is what is written on the side the module then that that is what you use. It isn't going to damage or reduce the lifespan of the memory. The memory may work at lower voltages but the timings, speed and voltage on the side of the module is what the manufacture has tested and rated them at. So use that to avoid any unnessary problems while overclocking.

mkohman · 9 Jul 2011 at 03:57

Speed said:
Yes, Vcore is the key one so start with that first.

As for the ram voltage if 1.65v is what is written on the side the module then that that is what you use. It isn't going to damage or reduce the lifespan of the memory. The memory may work at lower voltages but the timings, speed and voltage on the side of the module is what the manufacture has tested and rated them at. So use that to avoid any unnessary problems while overclocking.

thanks for the great tips.. is there anything I need to disable? Like shall I disable intel Turbo boost etc.. or leave that on .. ? Also what about c3/c6/c7 state disable or enabel and finally how about Load Line Calibration enabled or disabled?

shall I leave performance enhance on Turbo or change to standard?

I will change my multiplier to x 21 and my block to 190 or 191? And when working my way down from vcore and qpi do I do them together or go down on the vcore untill unstable then back one step up and then down on the qpi or do I go down together each time..

sorry for lots of questions but if I know the answer to these I think I will understand what I am doing a lot better

Thanks mate

Speed · 9 Jul 2011 at 12:42

mkohman said:
thanks for the great tips.. is there anything I need to disable? Like shall I disable intel Turbo boost etc.. or leave that on .. ? Also what about c3/c6/c7 state disable or enabel and finally how about Load Line Calibration enabled or disabled?

shall I leave performance enhance on Turbo or change to standard?

I will change my multiplier to x 21 and my block to 190 or 191? And when working my way down from vcore and qpi do I do them together or go down on the vcore untill unstable then back one step up and then down on the qpi or do I go down together each time..

sorry for lots of questions but if I know the answer to these I think I will understand what I am doing a lot better Thanks mate

Personally I leave most things at default as some help with reducing temps. You might need to disable some to help with stability, but I've never found that so for now just leave them and see how things go.

Intel Turbo Boost might automatically enable when you use the 21 mutilplier, if you get trouble using 21 then enable it. If not it can stay at default.

Turn LLC on as it will help, fix PCI Clock at 100MHz. Most everything else you can leave at default, if you don't know what is default just load optimised defaults.

Performance enhance as far as I'm aware is down to how tight the automatic memory timings are, but I'm not 100% sure. I just put it on standard regardless.

For 4GHz you want 191, otherwise it will be 3990MHz with 190BCLK or there abouts.

I'd work on Vcore first, get that sorted and squared away and then reduce QPI which is more related to memory.