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I recently went for a crossfire setup and I can wholeheartedly say it was an awful move to make. Gaming at 1900x1200 I was expecting a fair boost to FPS in most games, what I actually got was a temperamental, unstable and all round hideous experience.

Positives:

A few k more 3d marks.

Two cards look good sat in my case.

Slight FPS gain in most games.

E-peen bragging rights.

Negatives:

E-peen bragging rights, it's not big and it's not clever.

Cost for the performance is terrible, luckily my second 4870 was just under £100 so I can re-sell it.

Heat, these cards run hot, two together can heat a room.

Previously rock solid games are now crashing

Noise, for some unknown reason the fans on these two will not spin up in sync, so I end up with a constant whine. Setting fan speeds in CCC doesn't solve this as it only seems to influence the top card.

Power consumption is terrible, these cards have incredibly high idle power draw compared to their nVidia rivals.

FPS decrease in some games (Crysis I'm looking at you).

A few k more 3dmarks. I had never had any interest in synthetic benchmarks but was forced to install it as I couldn't tell if crossfire was working because of the abysmal performance gains.

Stuttering where there was none before, I assume this is due to the cards taking turns to render frames.

Graphical glitches and missing textures in areas where neither card running on their own would have any trouble whatsoever.

Final thoughts

I admit that some of the lack of performance increase is likely due to the 512mb vram on each card but this still fails to account for the rest of the issues.

I have always had my doubts over multi GPU setups holding any real world advantage (gaming at ungodly resolutions and benchmark scores aside) but of the two crossfire had always seemed to have been touted as more widely compatible and more stable than SLI. This is partly what drove me towards trying it out as my first foray into this strange world of dual graphics setups, thinking I'd be having a great laugh.

This isn't intended as a review or a dig at ATI, just my experiences. If you have any info which might help me tweak this setup so it actually seems to be doing anything that can be shown through real world performance it would be greatly appreciated, as right now I'm up for selling both 4870s and heading back to the green team once their new cards are out.

tl;dr

Crossfire was a massive let down.
 
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Isn't 1900x1200 quite high res for 512meg graphics cards? Surely Crossfire or not they will have trouble fitting that level of textures in their memory and performance will suffer.
I'd have thought 1Gb cards would be more useful to you?

Edit: Out of interest did you try running the benchmarks at lower res which would suit the 512Mb VRAM better? I personally wouldn't have thought to run a 512Mb card at anything over 1680x1050 but I'm no expert.
 
Isn't 1900x1200 quite high res for 512meg graphics cards? Surely Crossfire or not they will have trouble fitting that level of textures in their memory and performance will suffer.

I'd have thought 1Gb cards would be more useful to you?

When I bought the 1st card I was gaming at 1440x900. I realise that the vram is low for this resolution but in deciding between £100 for the second card (along with the allure of something new, ie crossifre) and £220 for a 1GB version of the card I already had, the cheaper option won out.
 
Yeah thats understandable, but personally I think you'd be better off with a more powerful 4870x2 with the 2Gb VRAM or a single 4870 with 1gb vram. There is a very big difference in pixel count between 1440x900 and 1900x1200
 
Edit: Out of interest did you try running the benchmarks at lower res which would suit the 512Mb VRAM better? I personally wouldn't have thought to run a 512Mb card at anything over 1680x1050 but I'm no expert.

Yeh, This was one of the first things I tried, but sadly the increase from crossfire becomes even less the lower I set the resolution.

It's not just the performance that I feel let down by, it's the other issues such as graphical errors, stuttering etc.

Ironically the one game which saw a huge FPS increase (STALKER: clear sky) now refuses to run with crossfire enabled.
 
I had a 512MB 4850 xfire setup when the cards first launched and had pretty decent results at 1920x1200 so I wouldn't say memory was a huge issue, they did die on their a** when I got the 30" Dell though. I guess it's just a matter of luck some people seem to get xfire/sli problems while other have a seemingly smooth ride.
 
As stonedofmoo said,

for 1920x1200 and above you want the 1gb cards ;) 512mb wont cut it with all the goodies turned on at that res. I have a 30" dell and run a 4870x2 on its own at 2560x1600 andit runs ok, but i will be looking to replace it in spring with what ever is newer and better at the time.

Having an x58 based mobo now im lucky as i can change to either nvidia and sli or stick with cross-fire. Have to see what happens.
 
As it stands now I'm thinking of selling the 2 cards (they're going for about £150 on a popular auction site) and putting the money towards either a GTX280/285 or a 4870x2 sometime early next year.

I'd love to hear from anyone who is using the x2 now so I could figure out if they still suffer from the issues I outlined in the original post.

I've also realised that this thread is rather inflammatory so I'm sorry for that. I don't intend to start an ATI/nVidia fight.
 
tbh the 4870x2 is simply crossfired 4870 on one card. If it doesn't help you now, it won't help you then unless it's Vram your issue needs. I'm not sure it is though as you've run at lower res's.

I'd go for a GTX285 in your position or a 55nm GTX260-216 in the new year. I'm personally going for the latter in the new year and have a similar spec to you, just a lower res 22" monitor.
 
tbh the 4870x2 is simply crossfired 4870 on one card. If it doesn't help you now, it won't help you then unless it's Vram your issue needs. I'm not sure it is though as you've run at lower res's.

I'd go for a GTX285 in your position or a 55nm GTX260-216 in the new year. I'm personally going for the latter in the new year and have a similar spec to you, just a lower res 22" monitor.

The 55nm GTX revisions are the cards that are really calling out to me, maybe a 280 if their prices drop in line with the release of the 285/295.
 
My 4870 512mb Crossfire set up was flawless. Ran everything cept crysis(who cares) at 1900/1200 nice and smooth. They were both watercooled so i cant comment on noise but tbh you really expect a dual card gaming rig to be eco friendly? I can tell no difference what so ever between my old cards and my X2 now. From day one ATI have been running smooth and all the driver updates have jus been releasing more power. I would not hesitate to reccomend a Xfire set up as i had really good experiences with it.
 
I've had a 4870 512MB, a GTX 260-216 and now a HD4870X2 from the current gen.

The HD4870X2 in crossfire enabled games is by miles the best card. I for one am now a Crossfire/SLi convert! ;)
 
A HD 4870 512MB graphic card is great at 1900 x 1200 resolution, it is only when 8xaa is added that the card can struggle in some games.

There is not much point in getting a gtx 260 216, as there is hardly any difference between that and a 4870.
 
i have recently gone crossfire with 2 4870 512mb using a res of 1920 by 1080 and i can honestly say apart from crysis and warhead all my 30 odd games have improved a lot most noticeably Far Cry 2 thats until 4 -8 X AA is enabled but im happy using 2 -4 AA in games and have a very smooth gameplay experience
 
I've recently tried a 4850+4870 setup and had no luck whatsoever. I must have done at least 30 driver reinstalls, tried 8.10-8.12 hotfix and the 8.12 hotfix was the only one which worked with both cards connected. Others either BSOD'd or gave driver errors no matter what I tried. When crossfire was enabled game performance was roughly 5-10% LESS than the 4870 on its own.
The only game which did benefit was Battlefield 2 but I don't need 300+ FPS in that game. Used GPU-z to see if the cards were working together and they were in all games but only 40-50% on each card. Battlefield 2 the 4850 was at 100% load & the 4870 75%.
Far cry 2 did get a slightly higher FPS with it enabled but the stuttering was unbearable. Same with other games, lower FPS and loads of stuttering which I can only assume is lack of frame buffer being 512mb cards @ 1920x1200.
Right I'm waffling so I'll stop. I'm gonna sell them on and get either a 4870x2 or wait for the GTX295, not sure yet.
 
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