crudallistix

[kitfit1]

But aren't they replacing duff RAM with single sided stuff that doesn't clock well?

Yep, if you had double sided, it will be replaced with single sided. As for clocking, your right about that as well. I have a set of 2x1gb single sided that were sent back from rma, they just about run at the advertised speed. But take it from me, they do not go any higher. They have now been put in Mrs Kitfit's rig at stock. If you want to run the ram at stock speed and stock Vdimm then get some, as long as you're prepared to spend lots of intervals waiting for them to come back from rma. Because even at stock, they still die

 

[WJA96]

Ah - yes, the old 'My PC5300 sticks ran at PC8500 until they died, these new ones don't clock' argument.

It's valid - you bought them because they did something special, but they're just replacing them with the part that runs at the stock speed. I've been there myself, but unless the retailer made special claims for them, I'm afraid you're out of luck getting a faster replacement.

 

[Gethzemane]

Ah - yes, the old 'My PC5300 sticks ran at PC8500 until they died, these new ones don't clock' argument.

It's valid - you bought them because they did something special, but they're just replacing them with the part that runs at the stock speed. I've been there myself, but unless the retailer made special claims for them, I'm afraid you're out of luck getting a faster replacement.

I concur, thats something all to often overlooked by pc fiddlers

 

[PhoenixUK]

I've been running Crucial Ballistix 2GB DDR2 PC2-5300C3 667MHz kit for over 18months in my Asus P5B deluxe board @2.15volts which is running a E6600 moderately clocked to 2700 (33idle temp on stock volts) and the sticks have been rock solid tbh.

I often wonder if its a motherboard compatibility problem esp when its comes to Ballistix, after all they wouldn't be the first ram manufacturer to have problems with certain brands of boards esp when the designed to run outside of motherboard stock SPD volts.

Ive bought tons of ram over the many years and so far these sticks have been the pick of the bunch. Like all hardware sometimes your unlucky and get a dud from flaky batch and well happy customers rarely feel the need to post about their contentedness, if you catch my drift.

What a terrible timings, my GeiLs do 340mhz @ 3-3-3-9 :S

 

[Gethzemane]

What a terrible timings, my GeiLs do 340mhz @ 3-3-3-9 :S

Obviously you didnt bother reading my further posts in this very thread before replying. It truely amazing what further information you can garner if you read a thread fully before adding to the conversation.

Current setting
DDR2-5300 @ 333FSB 3-3-3-12 (2.05volts)

Although congrats to you on geil are they 5300?

 

[Rroff]

The new single sided stuff is D9GCT isn't it? and will only do around 1152MHz tops - and often quite a bit lower...

I've been saying for years don't buy ballistix but no one listens to me

I stick to G.Skills or OCZ now and don't put more than 2.1v through them - OCing DDR2 has very little benefits anyhow... or if your buying DDR2-533/667 you might as well buy the corsair value RAM as it seems pretty good stuff and for the price its not the end of the world if it fails - you can replace it with new for almost the price of the postage...

 

[Gethzemane]

My sticks are 18months+ old and at the time were the favoured choice (flavour of the month). As is the history of PC components the lime light moves consistently. Personally my next interim upgrade will be OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-8000C5 1000MHz ReaperX and vista64 hmm although the missus will need alittle convincing

i still believe a good percentage peoples rants about memory is more down to component incompatibility, incorrect configuration and quite often simply over stressing a component with unrealistic overclocks.

That said, i gave up buying and building with Geil years ago! It comes to something when your on first name terms with ocuk rma department.

 

[KillBoY_UK]

My sticks are 18months+ old and at the time were the favoured choice (flavour of the month). As is the history of PC components the lime light moves consistently. Personally my next interim upgrade will be OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-8000C5 1000MHz ReaperX and vista64 hmm although the missus will need alittle convincing

i still believe a good percentage peoples rants about memory is more down to component incompatibility, incorrect configuration and quite often simply over stressing a component with unrealistic overclocks.

That said, i gave up buying and building with Geil years ago it comes to something when your on first name terms with ocuk rma department.

OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-8000C5 1000MHz , had thease for the pass couple of days to replace my 4th set of "crudallistix" pc8500's that were on the way out , they seem to be going so far run a lot cooler than the crudallistix ever did with of without a fan blowing on them (allways had a fan blowing on the crudallistix) but ill pass judgement later in few months

 

[V|per]

What voltages do you people use ? Ballistix want less than 2v if you want them to last in my experience.

2.25v @ 1400mhz 5-5-5-15. other set did 1200mhz 5-5-5-15 @ 2.2v, and both sets can handle 1200mhz 5-5-5-15 @ 2.2v. I had them for nearly a year before selling them on, and the are still running fine apparently. To which, my next comment would be:

Used Crucial Ballistix for as long as I can remember, excellent memory had no problems at all.....

 

[Gethzemane]

OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-8000C5 1000MHz , had thease for the pass couple of days to replace my 4th set of "crudallistix" pc8500's that were on the way out , they seem to be going so far run a lot cooler than the crudallistix ever did with of without a fan blowing on them (allways had a fan blowing on the crudallistix) but ill pass judgement later in few months

I think i catch the drift of your post if i may offer a word of advice, proof read your post before submitting

 

[Rroff]

2.25v @ 1400mhz 5-5-5-15. other set did 1200mhz 5-5-5-15 @ 2.2v, and both sets can handle 1200mhz 5-5-5-15 @ 2.2v. I had them for nearly a year before selling them on, and the are still running fine apparently. To which, my next comment would be:

I was running a set of g.skills HZ at 1333MHz 5-5-5-15 @ 2.25 for about 18 months then they went suddenly... they used the same chips as the ballistics - I can pretty much guarantee that they will die on whoever bought them after another 6 months or so...

 

[Tuvoc]

Corsair, Crucial and Geil I have had good luck with. Never touch OCZ again.
Probably in future it will be Corsair as first choice and Crucial as second, in both cases the UK RMA process is hugely valued by me

 

[MikeHunt79]

I found they get quote toasty, so I ripped the awful heatspreaders off and replaced them with ramsinks. They now are less toasty, and I've had them for over a year.

They say D9GMH on the chips... Does this mean anything?

 

[Rroff]

They say D9GMH on the chips... Does this mean anything?

Yes... they will clock like crazy, but if you run them over 2.1volts active cooling or not theres a high chance they will die within 2 years and much sooner if your unfortunate.

 

[smilertoo]

I just had my 2nd pair of ballistix1066 fail, but i have a feeling the blown Asus motherboard might have caused that.
So what is the safe voltage for these ram sticks if you're not overclocking? I've been pushing them up to 2.2v as thats their advertised power rating.

 

[MikeHunt79]

Yes... they will clock like crazy, but if you run them over 2.1volts active cooling or not theres a high chance they will die within 2 years and much sooner if your unfortunate.

I haven't really clocked them very much, I need to get around to it. I found that I need to run them at 2.2v to make them stable at stock speeds tho, but they work fine for me, I'm guessing my ramsinks probably work better than the stock heatspreaders (which seem to do more harm than good). If they die them RMA time, but perhaps I'm lucky to have been running these at 2.2v for over a year without them dieing!

 

[Rroff]

I haven't really clocked them very much, I need to get around to it. I found that I need to run them at 2.2v to make them stable at stock speeds tho, but they work fine for me, I'm guessing my ramsinks probably work better than the stock heatspreaders (which seem to do more harm than good). If they die them RMA time, but perhaps I'm lucky to have been running these at 2.2v for over a year without them dieing!

not every stick is the same and enhanced cooling will help some - infact with ramsinks you might even get away with it - the stock heatspreader even with active cooling doesn't seem to help long term...

 

[FrenchTart]

I've got 3 sticks of Ballistix waiting to go back too :/

 

[Tuvoc]

Hard to see how Crucial are making any money with all these returns....

 

[Gethzemane]

I just had my 2nd pair of ballistix1066 fail, but i have a feeling the blown Asus motherboard might have caused that.
So what is the safe voltage for these ram sticks if you're not overclocking? I've been pushing them up to 2.2v as thats their advertised power rating.

almost certainly will have been down to your motherboard going pop. The lower the better tbh, try at 2.0v and work your way up in .05 step until you find a stable set up. For example mine are rock solid at 2.05 and that's on a overclocked set-up, but some have found even lower volts to work fine.

Hard to see how Crucial are making any money with all these returns....

Probably because they have a huge sell through via various resellers and only a small percentage of returns?, its just you get to hear about some of those returns on boards such as this. It's worth remembering the majority of ocuk's customers probably never post on this forum or even know of its exsistence add to that most happy customers never coming looking for answers.....(the bigger picture as they say)