*** CRYPTO-CURRENCY MINING SYSTEMS: GET DAT $$$$ ***

Quite sure an SSD isn't required for a start!

Everywhere I've read, the BTC bubble 'burst' with the advent of ASIC rigs and that GPU mining is nowhere near profitable anymore once you factor in the cost of hardware and power. I'd love to be told different (by people with proper experience, not miners who've started in the last ~6 months, or Gibbo ;) ), in fact I'm considering mining my 2x7950's over my 2 week Christmas break to see how many LTC I can mine... Then calc the power cost... ;)
 
CPU can used for mining Quark coins by the way.

The case that had no fixed front or back, just a layered wafer type design. That might be high enough airflow.
Any case with a giant fan on the side would work or just take the side off

LTC I can mine... Then calc the power cost
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Theres a calc for that now. ASIC wont work with LTC as its using long words requiring upto 2gb of memory. BTC is subject to parallel processing so is pointless now without asic
 
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Roady said:
Quite sure an SSD isn't required for a start!

Everywhere I've read, the BTC bubble 'burst' with the advent of ASIC rigs and that GPU mining is nowhere near profitable anymore once you factor in the cost of hardware and power. I'd love to be told different (by people with proper experience, not miners who've started in the last ~6 months, or Gibbo ;) ), in fact I'm considering mining my 2x7950's over my 2 week Christmas break to see how many LTC I can mine... Then calc the power cost... ;)
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Nobody mines BTC as you said, but LTC and other scrypt coins are plenty profitable. However the diff is going up, and it's going up fast, so the Xmas break will not see you much return at all at this rate.
 
Addicted said:
Nobody mines BTC as you said, but LTC and other scrypt coins are plenty profitable. However the diff is going up, and it's going up fast, so the Xmas break will not see you much return at all at this rate.
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I've been 'interested' for a while, just never had the time (or the hardware!) until recently... I'm figuring to do ~100 hours of mining, calc the additional power usage and report back! :)
 
Roady said:
I've been 'interested' for a while, just never had the time (or the hardware!) until recently... I'm figuring to do ~100 hours of mining, calc the additional power usage and report back! :)
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Use this website to get a rough idea of how much your card will plough through and this calculator to give you a rough idea of how much dollar you will make.

Apologies if you've already seen this information :p
 
 
Really worried that the litecoin thing is going to pass me by before I can afford to get into it. I have a system with 3x PCI-E slots and an HX1000, but I need to start my new job before I can stick a couple of 7990's in it. :/
 
wndzr said:
Just allow for greater customisation of the components rather than forcing people to have certain bits.

It's less hassle for you guys putting it all together if your customer says they don't want certain bits, and people are more likely to buy because as you said it's convenient to have everything come as one. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who, like me have a few old sticks of RAM and the odd HDD lying around that could be used.

Things like the case and CPU are 'nice to have' but that extra hundred quid or so could be spent on better components that actually make a difference.

If I could just buy the GPU/Mobo/CPU for a fixed price I'd be a happy boy.
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True but you have missed the point. Not everyone is an enthusiast. Giving more options leaves to customer confusion and the potential for them to go elsewhere if the options are easier for them to understand.

if your an enthusiast, then as he has said do it yourself as this is likely better for you.
 
Nice gimmick but ultimately useless for mining.

Bitcoin - CPU/GPU mining became redundant a long time ago and only ASIC's cut it now.

Litecoin - Even with my rig pushing out over 1200 Kh/s it's still not economically viable for me.
 
.Griff. said:
Nice gimmick but ultimately useless for mining.

Bitcoin - CPU/GPU mining became redundant a long time ago and only ASIC's cut it now.

Litecoin - Even with my rig pushing out over 1200 Kh/s it's still not economically viable for me.
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I have looked at your rig, looked at the difficulty and looked at the current value per coin. Your power costs are just over a third of the profits made. How is that not economically viable?
 
.Griff. said:
Nice gimmick but ultimately useless for mining.

Bitcoin - CPU/GPU mining became redundant a long time ago and only ASIC's cut it now.

Litecoin - Even with my rig pushing out over 1200 Kh/s it's still not economically viable for me.
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You need to change your energy provider, your rig pushes our 200K more than mine and mine is definitely viable.

wndzr said:
Things like the case and CPU are 'nice to have'
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I'd just like to clarify...We are not allowed to sell PC's without an enclosed case. We have certain safety regs to adhere to even on niche products.

We also can't sell end of life, obsolete components to make the system cheaper because we simply don't have them. These aren't aimed at people like me who have drawers full of old bits to build their own rig from and to be honest with you, if people take some guidance from these specs but prefer to buy bits from us to build themselves then even I don't mind.
 
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Andrew Moore said:
True but you have missed the point. Not everyone is an enthusiast. Giving more options leaves to customer confusion and the potential for them to go elsewhere if the options are easier for them to understand.

if your an enthusiast, then as he has said do it yourself as this is likely better for you.
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I don't agree that giving more options will lead to customer confusion. People are human, not stupid.

Unfortunately you've hit the nail on the head buddy, all that's going to happen is people will go elsewhere to buys the bits that are suitable for mining and offered at a better price. It may sound daft, but the £30 saved on the CPU could go towards a better GPU which ultimately has a return. The £55 on the case again, could go elsewhere.

All you have to do is list each item of hardware and have an option for 'I do not need this' - then you'd be on to a winner.
 
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I have looked at your rig, looked at the difficulty and looked at the current value per coin. Your power costs are just over a third of the profits made. How is that not economically viable?
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ScottiB said:
You need to change your energy provider, your rig pushes our 200K more than mine and mine is definitely viable.
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Note I said economically "viable for me".. Not for everyone.

If it was a spare PC (albeit an expensive spare PC) sure I'd leave it running 24/7 but as it's my gaming and work PC I could only mine for about 8 hours a day which while it might bring in a modest income now will disappear in weeks or months once it becomes harder and harder to GPU mine.
 
ScottiB said:
I'd just like to clarify...We are not allowed to sell PC's without an enclosed case. We have certain safety regs to adhere to even on niche products.
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So if my suggestion was implemented where users select 'I do not need this item' it stops becoming a PC and becomes individual components?
 
wndzr said:
I think this thread has conclusively proven OcUK rushed things with this new product line. :(
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not sure how. it provides a complete package.

short of shipping a customer a test bench its realistically the best youre gonna get from any System Integrator.

when you look at all the other system integrators selling similar produ...

spend £1500 on a mining PC. you may earn some money.

if you dont, you still have £1500 worth of PC hardware you can always sell on :)
 
wndzr said:
So if my suggestion was implemented where users select 'I do not need this item' it stops becoming a PC and becomes individual components?
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that is exactly what you are suggesting.
this is a complete PC, your posts are basically just saying you want a cpu, board and VGA.

if that is the case, they are all available on the site as well.

your list, isnt a complete PC and wont mine you very many coins.
 
rjkoneill said:
not sure how. it provides a complete package.

short of shipping a customer a test bench its realistically the best youre gonna get from any System Integrator.

when you look at all the other system integrators selling similar produ...

spend £1500 on a mining PC. you may earn some money.

if you dont, you still have £1500 worth of PC hardware you can always sell on :)
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rjkoneill said:
that is exactly what you are suggesting.
this is a complete PC, your posts are basically just saying you want a cpu, board and VGA.

if that is the case, they are all available on the site as well.

your list, isnt a complete PC and wont mine you very many coins.
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I understand what you are trying to do, I really do. I just think better choices could have been made with regards to what's being put in it. It's possible to save a few pennies on "non-core" components.

I've managed to source some 7950 cards which are still awesome for mining for only £200 each. All my other components will be stuff I have lying around and an AMD Sempron chip from Bolton..
 
wndzr said:
I've managed to source some 7950 cards which are still awesome for mining for only £200 each.
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Good for you, unfortunately on the rare occasion that Gibbo does this they sell out in a few hours, not really viable for a PC builder to base a system around.
 
Not bad pricing baring in mind what you make back and save on the heating bills :D What people are forgetting here is OcUK are a business.
 
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