Current PL TV rights deal to continue until 2025
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Sorry, it wasn't earlier. I don't have a sub so I can't copy it here. Long story short, BT have been looking for a sale or a partner for the past 6 months and a sale to DAZN is possibly just weeks away and the PL may possible have to give their blessing to the deal as part of their agreement with BT.
No detail just yet on the timescale for the switch and how it will play out for BT subscribers.
Well thats one way of getting the rights. Hope they change the BT sports model.
Definitely. If you're lucky enough to grab a NOW package at the right time then you can pay the same and sometimes slightly less for it then you would for the BT package. There really isn't enough top flight coverage for most people to justify the price at the best of times with BT. Even if it where £10+ for a day pass I think most would consider it.
The PL's dominance across Europe looks set to continue. On top of rolling over the domestic rights with Sky, BT and Amazon, the PL's overseas income looks set for a hefty increase from next season and for the first time it's likely that overseas income will be worth more than domestic income.
Pre-covid the PL already agreed a huge deal for TV rights in the Nordic countries (to start in 2022) and tonight it's been confirmed that they've agreed an extension with NBC for the rights in the US, for a reported £2bn over 6 years. This is well over double what they were previously earning.
Good news for players contracts but bad news for supporters as deals like this will only delay the possibility of a Premflix type offering.
Pre-covid the PL already agreed a huge deal for TV rights in the Nordic countries (to start in 2022) and tonight it's been confirmed that they've agreed an extension with NBC for the rights in the US, for a reported £2bn over 6 years. This is well over double what they were previously earning.
Good news for players contracts but bad news for supporters as deals like this will only delay the possibility of a Premflix type offering.
I think they are at a breaking point to be honest. I obviously wont disclose them but people are going to start going to "alternative" methods and you really cant blame them.
I currently have NOW TV mobile pass and its absolute garbage. I learn about goals in here a good two minutes before i actually see them...good for the anxiety for penalties mind you
Broadcasters have got to be careful of that happening but it's very difficult for subscription costs to come down when they're paying so much to the League and while they continue to pay more and more, the PL won't take the risk of launching their own service.
Looking at how the whole things works is horrible, designed to extract every penny possible.
TV companies bid without knowing what other bids are. Which makes them potentially over bid by huge amounts.
Then when the market looks like it will burst, suddenly the auctions are called off and instead they renew at previous rates.
I honestly dont know how Sky are staying afloat, everyone I know is doing what omnomnom warned about. BT have seen the writing on the wall and are selling up.
A big problem sky have, is of course they cant air every game, yet if people know where to look they can get every game.
Why exactly is it that 15:00 games aren't shown? Is it just a hallowed time that broadcasters and the PL have agreed games will never be shown at? I understand that showing a certain percentage of games would eventually start eating away at ticket revenue but some kind of lottery system to determine one or two 15:00 games a weekend would be fair enough?
Agreement would need to be reached with the Football League clubs who are concerned fans would stay home and watch the PL rather than come to the ground to support their club. Given each FL club has a vote it’s unlikely to change. What I’d propose is make each PL game at 3pm PPV, like £4.99 or something and give this to the League clubs also playing at 3pm. Not sure how much they’d get though.
I'm not sure if you're aware but this was agreed with Sky, BT and Amazon, the PL couldn't just force them to extend on the same terms.
Given the pandemic, everybody (clubs & broadcasters) wanted certainty regarding what their income/expenses would be over the longer term and while there was the potential for domestic rights to fall as a result of the pandemic, there was also the possibility of a new player entering the scene (DAZN for example) and pushing the value up. It was a mutually beneficial deal for all parties.
In the 1960s(?) the football league voted to introduce a blackout of any live football being shown at 3pm on a Saturday to protect ticket sales. As MissChief says, to lift the blackout you're going to need a majority of EFL clubs to agree to this which isn't likely to happen as the issue still concerns them.
I have wondered if that’s an option, Saturday lunch time, early evening and late evening game, four or five games on a Sunday from 12 right through to 8pm and then a Monday night game as now. You’d likely need to double up on one or two matches though.
We know it is, as its what they did during lockdown.
Two barriers.
1 - convincing match attending fans they are ok with different schedules.
2 - EPL wont want to devalue their product they would want more money for more games.
The extra games for free during lockdown was seen as a special case, so I dont think they would agree to that long term.
Also games dont need to be spread out, thats just a thing done to pander to legacy TV services that run to a schedule, Amazon have no issues streaming games all at same time.
It looks like DAZN missed out on buying BT Sports. BT have announced that they will be launching a new joint venture with Discovery in the coming months:
https://news.sky.com/story/bt-in-talks-over-plan-for-bt-sport-to-team-up-with-eurosport-uk-12531576
https://news.sky.com/story/bt-in-talks-over-plan-for-bt-sport-to-team-up-with-eurosport-uk-12531576
Who knows what this means for DAZN in the long term. The guy that was running DAZN left last year and subsequently said their US operation has proved to be a failure due to not being able to get broadcast rights for any of the major US sports Leagues and the breakdown of their BT deal means they're not going to get their hands on any PL or CL football over here for a long time too.
As I saw one person say on twitter, this leaves Matchroom in a precarious position. Will DAZN keep pumping money into a loss making venture? Will it consolidate and cut back on it's spending (limiting the fights it can put on) or possibly call it a day? All while Frank Warren's suddenly got an even more powerful broadcaster behind him than before (and Sky still around).
This pretty much reinforces my belief that no one wants to watch sport on mobile devices, tablets or computers. They want a big tv and comfy sofa with snacks and drinks. Sure apps on smart TVs can help but that’s still not how most people watch and relies on decent broadband which not everyone has. This is why actual broadcast companies are so leveraged on Sports programming.
Why?
This news (or DAZN's struggles generally) has nothing to do with what consumers want. In the UK and US they're struggling because they haven't been able to purchase top tier sports rights. Until they can get the PL and or CL over here or one of the major leagues in the US, they're not going to attract enough subscribers to have a viable business.It might (probably at this rate) not be DAZN but a streaming service taking over the broadcasting rights for PL football over is coming. DAZN have already got the rights in Italy for Serie A, Amazon have done it in France. Sooner or later Amazon (or even the PL themselves) will blow Sky & BT out of the water.