*** Cyberpunk 2077 ***

TBH I would have been perfectly happy playing the less graphically impressive version from 2018 if the features and gameplay shown was there. As it stands we got something that looks better but chops out a whole bunch of things. Let's just wait and see if the big patch this month and the even bigger patch next month restores some of what was cut. Given that they have said absolutely nothing about the lack of AI though I am not confident that any form of AI improvement will be part of these patches.

I've put over 100 hours into the game so far and have stopped playing until after the patch. Enjoyed what I have played so far but that hasn't been without many moments of either bugs or wondering why the thing I am looking at or place I am exploring feels like something is distinctly missing.
 
I really hope that what this fiasco teaches people, is not to pre-purchase games.

I've never done this and I'm not going to start now.

Still, I got swept into the hype by that fake game trailer as I believed CDPR (after the great Witcher 3 experience) to be a cut above most other studios.

They've just proved to as corrupt as any of them.

The directors should be made to do a walk of shame. :p
 
ive never done it either but people do it with all sorts of things computer parts too. I like to have the opportunity to ponder and read reviews, with games maybe watch some gameplay and stuff, with computer parts see how they perform before i click the big green BUY button.

it seems strange to me ! but i guess its exciting to get things as soon as they come out, for some people. to be in on the hype and such
 
I finally got my refund for this from GOG. I was going to wait for the game to be patched up and then play but I figured the game will be on sale for £5 before its fixed so asked for refund.

Anyway just logged into GOG and noticed that I can still play Cyberpunk even though it not showing as an owned or even installed game but has its owned section on the games categories list. I assume the game will no longer update so I might as well uninstall it?
 
I really hope that what this fiasco teaches people, is not to pre-purchase games.

I've never done this and I'm not going to start now.

I've done it twice (and I've been gaming since 1981). The experience has varied wildly. The first game I pre-ordered was Test Drive Unlimited 2. Which shipped as an alpha version "release". Explicitly so - the release version was labelled as v0.6.2 - and it didn't work at all for the first week. I don't mean that it was bad. I mean that it literally didn't work at all. The game couldn't connect to the servers, so it was impossible to play. The second game I pre-ordered was Fallout 4 and that was fine. I pre-ordered all the DLC as well, despite no information on what it would be or when it would be released. That turned out fine too.

But it is a big risk and more than a bit silly. And many, many people will continue to do it.

Still, I got swept into the hype by that fake game trailer as I believed CDPR (after the great Witcher 3 experience) to be a cut above most other studios.

They've just proved to as corrupt as any of them.

The directors should be made to do a walk of shame. :p

They have pooped in their own nest with this one. Which is a particularly bad show as CDPR had previously earned a much better reputation than most game companies. Maybe any other game company with more than a few people working at it.

I bought Cyberpunk 2077 a week or two after release and without having seen any of the pre-release hype or lies. So I knew what I was buying. With powerful enough hardware, it's a fairly good game blighted by bugs and bad UI design. Had it been a first release by an unproven dev and had it been released without deceptive advertising and had it not been sold on platforms incapable of running it, I think it would have generally been cautiously praised.
 
Is there a crafting plan for legendary upgrade components? I have the crafting plan for legendary crafting components, but I want both. I also want batch crafting, since I'm going to be crafting common to uncommon to rare to epic to legendary over and over again. I recall seeing a mod for that.

I'm level 35 now. I suppose I should get around to the main quests in act 2, but I've been enjoying being an implausibly effective vigilante and just generally roaming around on a bike listening to the subtle lyrics of the songs on the radio and picking up various jobs. Wearing a purple puffy jacket and orange trainers because the gonk look is in this season. Or something.
 
Is there a crafting plan for legendary upgrade components? I have the crafting plan for legendary crafting components, but I want both. I also want batch crafting, since I'm going to be crafting common to uncommon to rare to epic to legendary over and over again. I recall seeing a mod for that.

Legendary Upgrade Components Blueprint - Not seen one reported anywhere on YT etc so I don't think a crafting plan/blueprint exists yet.

Batch Crafting - Only available via mods so far. Some Mods are "fast" crafting using the in-game crafting screen and some do "batch" via console commands which requires the extremely popular Cyber-Engine-Tweaks mod to activate.
 
I think this way of doing gaming business needs to stop. I hope that lawsuit cost them millions. Burn them to the ground, make an example, make a monument of greed, lies and corruption out of them. Do something. It is unbelievable what is happening in the gaming industry today.
Can't believe where and in which direction game industry is heading.
Where ever you go, instead of talks about the "in game content" you hear about everything outside the game: cut content, lies, failed promises, paid dlc cut from game, microtransactions, who was game director who screw up, crunches, fake apologies......just terrible.
 
How does one get rid of all the excess and copies of Johnny Silverhand clothing items you acquire over time?

1) You don't.

2) You use 3rd party programs to unstamp your items as quest items

3) You do the side quest Sweet Dreams: https://cyberpunk2077.wiki.fextralife.com/Sweet+Dreams which, if you fully complete it will strip off the quest markers from items.

That last one is single use only but will affect your entire inventory.

Annoying issue with no proper game solution but it can be done.
 
For all the issues with this game, and there are so so many, there are also moments of pure enjoyment and attention to detail.

Take this one for instance. (minimal spoilers):
When you meet Nancy & Denny (Johnny as well) in the Red Dirt bar for the reunion, ask Denny 'How you feeling? Ready for the show' then listen to what she says but watch Johnny's reaction. It is very subtle and at first I thought I imagined his reaction it but you can repeat the question and his reaction is simply superb, so appropriate for Johnny and greatly timed. The attention to that animation detail and reaction to her answer show to me that the devs who worked on this, really put a great deal work and love into it, it just needed more time in the oven.

Hopefully in a year or so, this can and hopefully will become one of the greatest games of all time.
 
I ended up refunding cyberpunk, it ran ok on my pc and the story seemed fine, didn't want to do too much of it due to some gameplay issues, I'm sure they will improve performance and stability but I just don't see some of the gameplay/engine limitations being fixed or improved on, such as the differences in games like gta to this, no limitations for killing a lot of certain gang members from what I can see etc. I hope they do and if so will check it out again but very overhyped and not delivered upon which is a shame
 
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Since I hadn't seen any of the hype, I hadn't realised how badly CDPR had lied about Cyberpunk 2077. Now that I have, I'd be willing to say the whole thing at least verges on fraud and not just the PS4 and Xbone releases.

But from my point of view, playing the game without any previous expectations based on those lies, it's a decent game if played on powerful enough hardware. It has an abysmal UI, especially for crafting and inventory management and those are key parts of a game that's mostly a looter-shooter-crafter/modifier game. The pseudo-AI is laughable. It's laughable for a game from 10 years ago, let alone today. The game is superficial. Choices have little or no meaning. In the most extreme cases of that, what you get is more like a cutscene with a facade of choices. For example, there's a small NPC side story quest line involving taking part in 4 races. But it's almost impossible to not win unless you just don't race at all. The "races" are scripted with more rubber banding than Joerg Sprave would use. In some missions, you have to shoot stuff from a vehicle driven by an NPC. But it's scripted, so you're not really shooting anything and it doesn't matter if you hit it or not. Just shoot a bit in roughly the right direction and the things will be destroyed when the scripting says so. Etc.

In my playthrough, I've chosen to pair up with Panam. So my preferred choice would be to do the end mission alone with Johnny in my head, seperate us and then leave Night City with Panam. The game won't allow that choice because it's not in the script. A crappy artificial limitation. There's an option (albeit hidden for no reason) to do the final mission alone with Johnny in your head. There's an option to leave Night City with Panam after the final mission. But no option to do both. To leave with Panam, you must do the final mission with her faction and get some of them killed. You can't even try to prevent them being killed - that's scripted too.

But there is depth there in the gameworld. It's just not really connected to the gameplay. I'm reminded of FO76 in a general sense - great worldbuilding, great storytelling, bad game-making.

For anyone who has no idea what the game was supposed to be, I'd cautiously recommend it if you have meaty enough hardware. For anyone else, no. If you have any expectation of what the game was supposed to be, you'll be disappointed by what it is.
 
I’ve not put more than 15 hours or so into this yet.

Think I may go back to my backlog and finish off a few other games before coming back to this, hopefully after it’s received a massive patch.

I was very late to the party with The Witcher 3, was that a bit of a mess at launch?
 
I'm seeing quite a few examples now of not having any choices. It looks like you have dialogue options but really you don't as picking most of them doesn't mean anything and it only progresses when you pick the one they want.

One ridiculous example. It's so small it baffles me - at one point a character asks you for a cigarette. You have 3 options. Give her one, say no your out or say you just won't give her one. First I said I was out. Nope. Then I said I wouldn't give her one. Nope. I had to choose the first option. I just don't get it. Is that some big plot point? Is it vital to the story that I had to give it to her?

Also I had an option come up on a timer to punch someone in the face but I didn't want to so I let the timer run out... V just punched them anyway. There wasn't a choice at all.
 
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