But the motorcycle lane IS the car lane. It's not the cycle lane that you have all to yourself
Cycle Lanes: Right of Way
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But the motorcycle lane IS the car lane. It's not the cycle lane that you have all to yourself
http://ukcyclelaws.blogspot.ca/p/overtaking-cyclists.html
If they are that wide why not just put white paint down the centre and add a second lane? You are leaving the required space right?
Cant believe this nonsense is still going on. Car drivers have to accept you are near the bottom of the food chain when it comes to the roads bar motorways. It is a right for anyone to ride a bicycle on the roads but is a privilege for drivers of motor vehicles to use the roads (under licence) and that privilege can be revoked.
A note on cycle lanes
Annex D: Code of Conduct Notice for Cyclists
The following key messages are suggested as the basis for a code of conduct notice for cyclists. The code could be posted at points of entry and at intervals along the route. This will be especially useful when the facility is new.
-If a feature segregating cyclists from pedestrians is present, keep to the cyclist's side. This will be indicated on blue and white road signs and by cycle logos on the surface.
-Always respect pedestrians even if they stray onto the cycling side (if there is one); they are entitled to do so.
-Ride at a sensible speed for the situation and ensure you can stop in time. As a general rule, if you want to cycle quickly, say in excess of 18 mph/30 kph, then you should be riding on the road.
So the DfT advises cyclists riding at speeds greater than 18mph to use the roads and not cycle lanes. http://webarchive.nationalarchives....e/2004/ltnwc/annexdcodeofconductnoticefor1688
A note on cycle lanes
Annex D: Code of Conduct Notice for Cyclists
The following key messages are suggested as the basis for a code of conduct notice for cyclists. The code could be posted at points of entry and at intervals along the route. This will be especially useful when the facility is new.
-If a feature segregating cyclists from pedestrians is present, keep to the cyclist's side. This will be indicated on blue and white road signs and by cycle logos on the surface.
-Always respect pedestrians even if they stray onto the cycling side (if there is one); they are entitled to do so.
-Ride at a sensible speed for the situation and ensure you can stop in time. As a general rule, if you want to cycle quickly, say in excess of 18 mph/30 kph, then you should be riding on the road.
So the DfT advises cyclists riding at speeds greater than 18mph to use the roads and not cycle lanes. http://webarchive.nationalarchives....e/2004/ltnwc/annexdcodeofconductnoticefor1688
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But the motorcycle lane IS the car lane. It's not the cycle lane that you have all to yourself
Well, not strictly all to ourselves. Seen a few cars and vans parked in 'em in my time. Not to mention the aforementioned pedestrians waiting to cross the road in them too
the cyclist was overtaking the other cyclist....
i do ride a motorbike...
teats why i'm not saying "oh well legally this and that" im saying those two simple things would have made him vastly safer.
"well according to the highway code..." is not the best start to your tombstone.
he had no idea what was going on over there cause he didn't look, and no mirror means no quick situational awareness glance, rather than the extended neck craning backwards looks. (a life saver/shoulder check is nothing like what he was doing)
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pffft, dieing is for pussies, i just slide and then threaten to hit the ** don't circumvent the swear filter - EVH ** with my helmet.
hmmmm, that sentence is wildly homoerotic on second reading,.
my if you'd been in the cycle lane comment was simpply a joke but i didnt bother with a smiley on the phone.
the mirror thing though is seriously something worth the cheapo chinese bar end.
Surely a mirror would need adjusting every time you change position which is relatively frequent on a road bike?
Not sure cyclists with mirrors bother to use them anyway. Had an ebiker with a side mirror launch himself off the pavement in front of me without any care. Then he proceeded through a red traffic light. I caught up to him about half a mile down and asked why he just jumped off the pavement in front of me... "Uh.. Sorry didn't see you!" as if I was never actually there. I responded "You didn't see the red light either did you?!" then he called me some stupid something or other
Yes Grudas was overtaking however he did not impose any danger on the cyclist he was overtaking did he? so again what is your point? I'm not sure why you even mention Grudas was overtaking. It was the responsibility of the van driver overtaking Grudas to ensure no one else was endangered. Your lack of understanding on this matter astounds me, especially considering you're a motorcyclist too.
Yet you're telling me that I haven't looked over my shoulder? How do you know that when my camera was attached to my bike. The guy that nearly wiped me off in the above video wasn't even in my lane, even if I was to look back I'd have had no chance to avoid it.
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I dunno - Ask the Council...
It does split into two at a couple of points further on, but then goes back to one again.
For one bike, yes.
But that's why two is a problem and why it holds up traffic that should otherwise be doing 50mph.
Not a decent one, no...
If that were the case, motorcycles with the same mirrors would be perpetually adjusting theirs, too.
Motorbikes dont have handlebars where you can ride on the tops, drops or hoods like a road bike for instance, you just hold the grips hence the difference he was talking about.
They actually do under certain conditions.
Which way? Because the cycle path towards the A14 is one of the worst I've ever experienced, in any city and there's no chance you would get me riding on it.
I would do the same thing - ignore the cycle lane and move to priority position to go straight ahead.
I was waiting for ** removed ** to appear, first page - you didn't disappoint
. As we've had road tax and lycra already, we just need v0n to tell us all how cycling isn't a form of transport now for a full house.
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No, only lights, and at night rear reflectors.
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But you can alter your riding position - Slide bum forward or back, straighten up or go into a racing crouch... stand up on the pegs, if you want to.
You can even move forward, backward, left or right in a car seat, if you want...
Regardless of your position, the onus is on you to re-align yourself that you can see properly in your mirrors. Drivers and riders alike are perfectly capable of leaning a couple of inches to see better...
Or look round and get a proper perspective of what's going on?
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That's fine for a shoulder check off your back quarter, but useless if you want to see further behind you. Too many 2-wheelers (cycles and bikes) start a countersteer into the road when they do this, although it's less pronounced with the former.
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Where can I purchase this mythical road tax?