What?! I thought you're meant to just stay in the middle lane of the motorway!
Why would you ever pull left unless you're exiting?
Cycle Lanes: Right of Way
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What?! I thought you're meant to just stay in the middle lane of the motorway!
Why would you ever pull left unless you're exiting?
Last time I checked the highway code the vehicle doing the overtaking is the one doing the at risk maneuver and is therefore the one who makes the decision of whether to commit or not based on endangering others around them as they proceed. Grudas had right of way in this instance and regardless of anything you say the van driver was a completely arrogant, selfish pillock!
Whilst mirrors may give a brief indication of what is behind you they do not tell the whole story and there is nothing better than turning your head to take a look. Go ride a motorbike and tell me how you get on only using your mirrors. That said in a car you should still be conducting a lifesaver / blind spot check too before committing to a maneuver.
I drive an Audi, I don't think I've ever done anything other than cross over that middle lane when joining / exiting the motorway. I'm yet to figure out what it is useful for!
That's more of a problem with town planning. Cycle lanes on pavements are a total pain because of the already mentioned reasons. They should be widening roads to accommodate all types of traffic, rather than narrowing them to widen pavements for cycle lanes that only half of cyclists use.
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Cycle paths are for people who aren't confident or skilled enough to cycle on the road. I'll use the infrastructure that best suits my requirements in regards to speed, safety and convenience - the same as I do when I'm driving - sometimes I'll use the motorway because it's quicker, sometimes I'll use the A roads because it's a nicer drive and if I'm out in the Westfield I'll try to use the B roads as much as possible. I don't purposefully do things on the road as a cyclist to inconvenience others and neither do I get annoyed by others that inconvenience me when they are using the road as they are entitled to. Do you get get mad at tractors, lorries, learner drivers, horse riders and pedestrians walking along the verge too?
The roads are there for EVERYONE to use - we just need chill out, leave 5 mins earlier and give each other time and space on the roads. If you can't pass a cyclist safely, then maybe you need to retake your driving test and if you get angry at being held up for 10s while waiting for a safe place to pass, then maybe a bus pass if a better option for you.
No, because stopping at red lights is a legal requirement and besides, they aren't an inconvenience, they are a necessity for the roads to function correctly.
There was however one set of lights on my old commute that if I got to them just as they changed to red, it was quicker to dismount, walk the bike round the left turn on the pavement and mount up again. Unbelievably, a few cars have bibbed and the drivers shouted at me for doing that (obviously jealous they can't do the same thing) - one even went through the red light to follow and shout at me - right in front of a copper! That was a very amusing morning and my first time as a witness in court
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There was however one set of lights on my old commute that if I got to them just as they changed to red, it was quicker to dismount, walk the bike round the left turn on the pavement and mount up again. Unbelievably, a few cars have bibbed and the drivers shouted at me for doing that (obviously jealous they can't do the same thing) - one even went through the red light to follow and shout at me - right in front of a copper! That was a very amusing morning and my first time as a witness in court
I can do similar to that right here - https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.0...WI3IqV8hcRLmq_VVHw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
I came to the end of the cycle lane which I do every day, got off, walked to the left of the traffic lights where I work, got back on and a driver chased me saying I can't do that
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I can do similar to that right here - https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.0...WI3IqV8hcRLmq_VVHw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
I came to the end of the cycle lane which I do every day, got off, walked to the left of the traffic lights where I work, got back on and a driver chased me saying I can't do that
The best ones are where you get to a pelican crossing on red, dismount onto the pavement, press the "crossing button", the man goes green, you walk your bike across the junction and mount up again on the other side and carry on your commute
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To be fair he has some good points.
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He has none, he is just ranting.
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Are we looking at the same posts?
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I'm 100% sure somebody has hacked his account, this is not him in this thread.
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You can say you're anything on the internet.
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Regardless of his views, I don't think it's polite to keep bringing his occupation in to the matter. Well, maybe if he was an Olympic cyclist and there was irony there 
Regardless of his views, I don't think it's polite to keep bringing his occupation in to the matter. Well, maybe if he was an Olympic cyclist and there was irony there
It is relevant though as he was having a go at people going out riding their bikes as a hobby. As a doctor you would think people going out to improve their health and fitness should be encouraged not ridiculed.
I wouldn't say it is intelligence that is lacking it is however showing a very selfish attitude towards any road users other than themselves. It is this attitude that gets so many on the road uptight, stressed and making silly decisions which result in endangering others as well as themselves sometimes.
Sadly there are many that fall into this category, you just have to hope you don't come across them whilst out and about in / on any vehicle on the road.
That's pretty much it. As I've said it is very difficult to have an unbiased view in these discussions.
Strange to see Tefal have a go at me when he's on two wheels too and perfectly knows the issues with drivers.
All I was doing in that video was overtaking another cyclists, the driver came out of nowhere, he wasn't even close to me last ttimei looked and was easily breaking the speed limit.
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On these roads, there is space to safely overtake cycles in single file without crossing the solid white line. The roads are nice and wide.
However, by riding 2 abreast cycles restrict the traffic. Posted limit is 50mph.
That's what I mean.
And if you ever get wiped out and killed on your motorbike by someone driving dangerously then it's obviously your fault for not being in a car and most likely having a far higher chance of survival.
I had a road like that on my commute. The local council's solution was to put traffic islands every fifty yards for two miles, meaning now there's only enough time for two cars to overtake a cyclist safely in each gap on the uphill bit, and no time for anyone to overtake on the downhill stretch. Seen so many near misses when a car or a van misjudges the amount of space they have to the island and has to cut in front of the cyclist. Wouldn't be so bad but there's only a couple of islands that are ever used by pedestrians crossing the road.