No there are different guidlines, unless your causing a hazard its not a problem.
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No there are different guidlines, unless your causing a hazard its not a problem.
You're making yourself sound stupid. I suggest you read the highway code.
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Its people really and nothing unique to cyclists. I am amazed there aren't more fatalities on the roads - probably 7 out of 10 pedestrians I see just walk out when crossing the road without looking, when as a pedestrian and I'm crossing a turn off road from a main road quite frequently get drivers who don't look like they are going to turn in, no slowing down or indicating - until they see I'm crossing the road then they turn on their indicators in a "get out of my way" manner rather than to let other road users know what they intend to do.
Indeed. Annoying. I'm sure someone will pop in here shortly claiming they're entitled to do so, too.
Thats against the HWC too, but your right it prob won't stop people saying its ok
Indeed, it is against the HWC.
It wont hold you up any more than a single cyclist though because they will still be no wider than a car.
Well that's not quite true. Overtaking two cyclists will require a wider birth than just one, as there are twice as many of them.
Not necessarily. You should give them the same width you'd give a car, so with two a breast, you'd be further over on the right than with just the one.
Can't you do it on a track or something? I cycle in Hull but it's on slow city roads where everyone can see you. If a 2 tonne box going past you is so scary then do it somewhere else? And the 'pro' ones are usually the ones taking up far too much road space and getting in the way in my experience. I just ride next to the gutter and keep out of the way unlike these annoying people in leotards weaving side to side with their arse in the air.
I suggest you read up more on the subject your talking about, but seem to know little about.
"On 1st August 1999, new legislation came into force to allow a fixed penalty notice to be served on anyone who is guilty of cycling on a footway. However the Home Office issued guidance on how the new legislation should be applied, indicating that they should only be used where a cyclist is riding in a manner that may endanger others. At the time Home Office Minister Paul Boateng issued a letter stating that:
"The introduction of the fixed penalty is not aimed at responsible cyclists who sometimes feel obliged to use the pavement out of fear of traffic and who show consideration to other pavement users when doing so. Chief police officers, who are responsible for enforcement, acknowledge that many cyclists, particularly children and young people, are afraid to cycle on the road, sensitivity and careful use of police discretion is required."
Almost identical advice has since been issued by the Home Office with regards the use of fixed penalty notices by 'Community Support Officers' and wardens.
"CSOs and accredited persons will be accountable in the same way as police officers. They will be under the direction and control of the chief officer, supervised on a daily basis by the local community beat officer and will be subject to the same police complaints system. The Government have included provision in the Anti Social Behaviour Bill to enable CSOs and accredited persons to stop those cycling irresponsibly on the pavement in order to issue a fixed penalty notice.
I should stress that the issue is about inconsiderate cycling on the pavements. The new provisions are not aimed at responsible cyclists who sometimes feel obliged to use the pavement out of fear of the traffic, and who show consideration to other road users when doing so. Chief officers recognise that the fixed penalty needs to be used with a considerable degree of discretion and it cannot be issued to anyone under the age of 16. (Letter to Mr H. Peel from John Crozier of The Home Office, reference T5080/4, 23 February 2004)"
What you have quoted is just the guidelines for FPNs. It's still illegal to ride on the pavement, but it's at the officer's discretion to issue an FPN or not.
I never said the law didnt exist, simply that new guidlines are there that do allow you to ride on the pavement, as long as your not doing it in a dangerous manner.
Well I just mean the ones that dress up for the occasion and ride an expensive bike just to go cycling, rather than cycling to work or whatever.