Hobbyist cyclists just want to own the road, I do cycle and I respect the fact that there are mostly cars on the road. As the minority, cyclists should really watch out for cars instead of assume that the responsibility is all down to motorists. It goes 50/50.
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Hobbyist cyclists just want to own the road, I do cycle and I respect the fact that there are mostly cars on the road. As the minority, cyclists should really watch out for cars instead of assume that the responsibility is all down to motorists. It goes 50/50.
Why should you not have to? How do you deal with tractors? Or caravans? Or horses? Or people? Or mopeds?
If you'd ever ridden a bicycle (a road bike at least) any distance you'd know it's really not safe or practical to ride in the gutter.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a driver more than a cyclist, and I hate nothing more than militant cyclists who deliberately obstruct and disregard traffic laws, but your attitude is all wrong.
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Most cyclists in my scenario are fine because they stick to the kerb and cause minimal inconvenience. I'm saying that slower wobbly ones take me by surprise. The other objects you list are usually moving at a pace or have the sense not to be in the middle of the road.
I cycle and I behave like I expect other cyclists to react to cars. The ones that think everyone should revolve around them for their hobby are my gripe.
I cycle and I behave like I expect other cyclists to react to cars. The ones that think everyone should revolve around them for their hobby are my gripe.
Why have you headed your post "Cyclists" when your complaint is with "Bad cyclists"?
If you're going at a "safe speed" then what's the problem?
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You're just not that clever, are you?
However it is, is an offence, and you can be hauled up for it (however unlikely). Same for motorbikes.
Still wow. Your attitude (in this post and others) stinks and needs a shake up mate before you kill someone. Cyclists should not have to ride in the gutter just so that you can scream round a "blind bend at 40mph" (!!) and squeeze past them in the face of oncoming traffic because you "shouldn't have to brake" for them.
What happens if you come round the bend to find a horse rider? What about a horse rider struggling to control their horse that's got spooked by a car going too fast the other way? What about a cyclist, motorcyclist who's fallen off, or a walker who's had a stroke and fallen across the road?
IMO, you should be prepared to have to actually STOP as you come around every blind corner (in case of the above scenarios or similar) and should be able to do so safely and under control on your side of the road in the distance that you can see to be clear.
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i don't get the road tax argument, it's not a road tax any more really.
The only issue I have with cyclists are those that run red lights, and cycle dangerously. The issue being that if I hit them irrespective of whose fault it is, I, as the driver will get the blame. That's my only bug bear.
Other than that, I try and be as helpful and courteous to bikes as possible.
The only issue I have with cyclists are those that run red lights, and cycle dangerously. The issue being that if I hit them irrespective of whose fault it is, I, as the driver will get the blame. That's my only bug bear.
Other than that, I try and be as helpful and courteous to bikes as possible.
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We get a lot of cyclists in Cambridge, and a lot of the time I'm one of them but both drivers and cyclists cab be bizzare.
I once had a bus driver yell at me for not cycling on the path (not a designated cycle path) and I was about 20ft away from a cycle lane.
Part of the issue is you need no formal training or qualifications to cycle with traffic. Consequently drivers half-expect people to be following the highway code, which cyclists don't need to be aware of.
And why oh why do some cyclists go on a dual carriageway (a14) when safer, rural routes are available I will never understand.
I once had a bus driver yell at me for not cycling on the path (not a designated cycle path) and I was about 20ft away from a cycle lane.
Part of the issue is you need no formal training or qualifications to cycle with traffic. Consequently drivers half-expect people to be following the highway code, which cyclists don't need to be aware of.
And why oh why do some cyclists go on a dual carriageway (a14) when safer, rural routes are available I will never understand.
The only thing that grinds my gears, car drivers thrashing past you as a cyclist, to then turn off infront of you, or sit at a roundabout.
I'll be riding at 35kmh or above on the flat, so no bimbling along!
In Australia you can ride your pushbike down the motorway if you wish but you would have a death wish to do so imo!
I'll be riding at 35kmh or above on the flat, so no bimbling along!
In Australia you can ride your pushbike down the motorway if you wish but you would have a death wish to do so imo!
And it's emissions based, so they'd be zero rated anyway.
Getting them on a database would help with organising insurance and make them easier to track to pay their traffic offence fines.
If cyclists want to be treated like drivers, treat them like drivers!
My main problem with cyclists isn't the cyclists themselves. It's the idiotic car drivers who think its their god given right to overtake them no matter whether there is oncoming traffic.
The country roads I use to get to the office are popular with cyclists and I reckon at least twice per month I nearly have a head on with car that's overtaking on a corner.
Oh yeah, guess who they swerve towards when they see the green Jag barrelling towards them. Yup, the poor cyclist.
The country roads I use to get to the office are popular with cyclists and I reckon at least twice per month I nearly have a head on with car that's overtaking on a corner.
Oh yeah, guess who they swerve towards when they see the green Jag barrelling towards them. Yup, the poor cyclist.
sorry - but when I cycle - I don't do this
and as a driver it REALLY annoys me if its a narrow-ish road and its been difficult (ie taken ages -as I always give cyclists a good amount of space) to get past
for the cyclist to then pass the 4 cars that have struggled to get past him 5 mins before to then jump ahead and often then hold all the cars up at 10mph - its very annoying
its against highway code to undertake is it not?
and as for jumping red lights - I see cars do it as well as bikes (push bikes)
but I see it far far more often with bikes than cars - even though I see less instances of bikes at traffic lights than cars - if that makes sense
in fact I'd go as far to say as the bikers that DO observe red lights are in the minority
but I see it far far more often with bikes than cars - even though I see less instances of bikes at traffic lights than cars - if that makes sense
in fact I'd go as far to say as the bikers that DO observe red lights are in the minority
Yes it is. You don't need to pay VED for a car that isn't used on the road. It might not be called 'road tax' any more (even though the governments own literature sometimes does refer to 'road tax' or 'taxing your vehicle') but is a tax that must be paid to use a vehicle on the road.
Obviously, some vehicles have a £0 liability at present, but this is with the aim of persuading people to buy a certain type of vehicle, eventually the government will make a loss large enough to start charging these vehicles VED.