Perhaps it's a bit of a long shot but usually catches people off guard, you know who discovered* penicillin on top of your head? Perhaps a bad example if you do but you get the point being made.
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Perhaps it's a bit of a long shot but usually catches people off guard, you know who discovered* penicillin on top of your head? Perhaps a bad example if you do but you get the point being made.
Many other significant events in WW2 would never have come to pass if it wasn't for the Normandy landings.
And I'd class WW2 as the most significant event for the shear number of lives that were lost, the shear number of people involved. The fact that it truly was a world war.
But of course that compares to knitting doesn't it?
And I'd class WW2 as the most significant event for the shear number of lives that were lost, the shear number of people involved. The fact that it truly was a world war.
But of course that compares to knitting doesn't it?
yea only
22,000,000
to 30,000,000
military deaths
38,000,000
to 55,000,000
civilian deaths
a combined total of
60,000,000
to 85,000,000 dead
A couple of countries lost over 10% of their population to ww2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Total_deaths
Don't bother teaching it at schools... not like much happened anyway
22,000,000
to 30,000,000
military deaths
38,000,000
to 55,000,000
civilian deaths
a combined total of
60,000,000
to 85,000,000 dead
A couple of countries lost over 10% of their population to ww2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Total_deaths
Don't bother teaching it at schools... not like much happened anyway
I do, also that it's famous discovery was actually an accident and it had been found years earlier.
You know why I know that? Because I educated myself outside of school time. (thanks to Mr Bill Bryson for this knowledge)
I don't sit in blissful ignorance of what goes on around me. What has come before me. And also, things that are coming.
But did you get the point that was being made? I could also ask about Nanking Massacre but lets assume you're big on history and know it, then we were off into art or other area, in some company you may feel like the smartest person on earth while in others you will feel painfully ignorant.
I'd be pretty shocked if someone didn't know what D-Day was (and I'd assume they're a bit thick).
On top of all the other reasons people have mentioned, many people probably still have relatives who were alive when it happened, it's still fairly recent.
On top of all the other reasons people have mentioned, many people probably still have relatives who were alive when it happened, it's still fairly recent.
You're missing the point i'm making. I know about it because I picked up a book once in a while and read. It's ironic that you're trying to excuse peoples ignorance on this, the internet. The greatest tool ever for exchanging knowledge.
And the Nanking Massacre, more commonly known as the Rape of Nanking. The reason that many Chinese will NEVER forgive the Japanese.
is that a trick question ? no one invented it someone discovered it
Ignorance on certain subject does not make people stupid or thick as whole, that's the point I am making. Nor does knowing history makes you especially clever or smarter than person who doesn't.
No trick, pedantic but thanks for correction, will edit the post.
Oh and Nerusy, I fully admit I'd trip up in art. My knowledge there is quite poor. I could still discuss things such as the renaissance movement with you however, and name a number of artists and their styles. My particular favourite is Mark Rothco.
And it's all because I bothered to look up some information...
You're still however missing the point that myself, Arknor and others have made, ignorance of D-day is inexcusable in this country down to the massive historic value of it. As i've said already one and a half million men and women were willing to give their lives on a single day so Europe would be free. If you think that's just a small inconsequential thing then I struggle to find words to comprehend you.
And it's all because I bothered to look up some information...
You're still however missing the point that myself, Arknor and others have made, ignorance of D-day is inexcusable in this country down to the massive historic value of it. As i've said already one and a half million men and women were willing to give their lives on a single day so Europe would be free. If you think that's just a small inconsequential thing then I struggle to find words to comprehend you.
Dis86 you are an intelligent person surely you can see that not everyone is interesting in war.
I personally cant drive and have almost zero interest in cars. Thats my little weirdness.
where do you keep pulling this 1.5m people number from? im curious the actually soldiers (allies only) where about 156,000, 6000 ships and landing craft say 200,000 crew, sorties by air im unsure say another 5000 pilots and crew.
can you link me to your source would be interesting. thank you
I personally cant drive and have almost zero interest in cars. Thats my little weirdness.
where do you keep pulling this 1.5m people number from? im curious the actually soldiers (allies only) where about 156,000, 6000 ships and landing craft say 200,000 crew, sorties by air im unsure say another 5000 pilots and crew.
can you link me to your source would be interesting. thank you
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first invasion wave on the beaches was about 150k, plus there were paratroopers and airborne forces dropped behind the german lines. The 1.5mil comes from the total number of allied forces committed to the operation. Think Wikipedia can probably support it.
Infact, i've just checked and it can. Check D-day on wikipedia and on the right hand side under strength it's 1,332,000
Infact, i've just checked and it can. Check D-day on wikipedia and on the right hand side under strength it's 1,332,000
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Personally I think D-day isnt that big at all, in respect to ww2... It happened in 1944 less than a year before the war ended.
Everyone knew including Germans that the war was over after 1943 defeat in Stalingrad... Without D-Day soviets would`ve won anyway without allied landing. Maybe it would've taken them extra year, maybe less since Nazi war machine was completely obliterated by 1944.
What D-day did was to stop soviets capturing all regions down to Spain, thats what it did.. Pretty much trolled Soviet Union.
Battle of Kursk/Stalingrad even winter war make look D-day like a piece of crap
I mean in both wars Germans sent I think nearly 90% of their armed forces into Eastern Front, I dont think the 10% that the allied took out would`ve had any impact at all on the Soviets winning the war, since by the time russians got to berlin they outnumbered germans I think it was 1 to 10 in manpower/tanks/artilery ect ect... Soviets in 1 night during siege of Berlin launched more shells on Berlin than all allied bombings put together...
Everyone knew including Germans that the war was over after 1943 defeat in Stalingrad... Without D-Day soviets would`ve won anyway without allied landing. Maybe it would've taken them extra year, maybe less since Nazi war machine was completely obliterated by 1944.
What D-day did was to stop soviets capturing all regions down to Spain, thats what it did.. Pretty much trolled Soviet Union.
Battle of Kursk/Stalingrad even winter war make look D-day like a piece of crap
I mean in both wars Germans sent I think nearly 90% of their armed forces into Eastern Front, I dont think the 10% that the allied took out would`ve had any impact at all on the Soviets winning the war, since by the time russians got to berlin they outnumbered germans I think it was 1 to 10 in manpower/tanks/artilery ect ect... Soviets in 1 night during siege of Berlin launched more shells on Berlin than all allied bombings put together...
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Surely she knows about what happened on D-Day but is confused about the phrase.
And really D-Day signifies nothing but a final nail of the coffin for Hitler. The Germans lost the war in late June 1941.
Or if you are not happy with that date then we can for sure agree February 1943.
Nope, she literally had no idea. She didn't even know that the allies got pushed out of Europe.
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I'm half and half, I personally think that history shaped today, and is something that needs to be remembered. I watched an amateur video of a group of old soldiers talking about the war and it proper choked me up. So many lives lost then!
BUT
If someone wants to look into the future and not the past, that's fine. I sometimes talk about events,the missus has no idea about them. It makes good conversation.
BUT
If someone wants to look into the future and not the past, that's fine. I sometimes talk about events,the missus has no idea about them. It makes good conversation.
ok so you mean operation overlord, not "d-day 6th june aka operation neptune" but d-day+31.
For a minute there i actually thought you were stupid enough to think 1.3 million people arrived in northern France on the 6th of June. The vast majority not arriving until the mulberry harbors were constructed 3 days later.
By 19 June, when severe storms interrupted the landing of supplies for several days and destroyed the Omaha harbour, the British had landed 314,547 men, 54,000 vehicles, and 102,000 tons of supplies, while the Americans put ashore 314,504 men, 41,000 vehicles, and 116,000 tons of supplies.[25]
Also the first wave terminology is a little off please refer to d-day+1 or more consecutive days. First wave implies higgins boat landings more specifically in operation neptune or the bombing of the beach and its fortifications by medium/heavy bombers prior to the amphibious assaults of 6th June.
Does it really matter at this point?
We spent the better part of the 20th century ridding ourselves of the far-right only for it to rise again these past few years?
While the relevancy is sure to be more important, the further away from the event we get, the more first hand accounts we lose and history is lost permanently, not everything is written or photographed after all.
It wont be long till we get to the twilight years after the war, once all the war children are gone.
I am curious as to the affect on society it may have.
We spent the better part of the 20th century ridding ourselves of the far-right only for it to rise again these past few years?
While the relevancy is sure to be more important, the further away from the event we get, the more first hand accounts we lose and history is lost permanently, not everything is written or photographed after all.
It wont be long till we get to the twilight years after the war, once all the war children are gone.
I am curious as to the affect on society it may have.