Daily Mail: Foreign Mothers Abuse NHS

dangerstat said:
Jeez I wish there was a place we could send the Daily Fail back to.
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In all fairness, people do come here just for the healthcare for childbirth - I know of a filipino family that have had two family members come over here for this exact reason. How common this is though, I have no idea. Bad journalism certainly doesn't make for a persuasive argument either.
 
dangerstat said:
I'd like to say sorry for that fact cymatty exists in the North West, most of us are not utter retards.
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Personal insult aside, I wonder who is a bigger "retard", myself for choice of newspaper or some person on an Internet forum who thinks he knows the first thing about me. ;)
 
cymatty said:
Personal insult aside, I wonder who is a bigger "retard", myself for choice of newspaper or some person on an Internet forum who thinks he knows the first thing about me. ;)
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I don't think it's possible to give a personal insult to someone who insults people at will. And your location says greater Manchester hence why I said you exist int he North West.
 
Nitefly said:
How common this is though, I have no idea. Bad journalism certainly doesn't make for a persuasive argument either.
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Health tourism is not insignificant in London but not so much in the rest of the UK. There are no real brakes on it and it is not an issue to staff in the main hence why it continues. I would not actually call it a problem though in my experience but it does divert money away which could have been used elsewhere but one could level that accusation at health care in London. It does pay to live in the M25 if you are ill.
 
Daily Mail said:
In theory, only a woman who has lived here legally for a year or has a student visa lasting more than six months is entitled to free NHS care when giving birth.

Yet few hospitals are prepared to turn away a pregnant patient in the late stages of labour. Indeed, the Government recently issued an instruction telling them to admit such women without question.
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If I'm following the implication of this piece (and there's no guarantee that my logic and that of a Daily Mail writer is in any way similar) they're suggesting that it is a problem when hospitals don't turn away heavily pregnant women. Are they seriously suggesting there is another better alternative in sending them away?

I'm reading that and wondering if my comprehension skills have gone for a burton because I conceptually I struggle with that idea on a pretty fundamental level.
 
dangerstat said:
I don't think it's possible to give a personal insult to someone who insults people at will. And your location says greater Manchester hence why I said you exist int he North West.
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Well I am sure the North West can breath a sigh of relief as I am not there at the moment.

Honestly people make me laugh, just because I read a certain paper does not mean I agree with all of its views, I am more than intelligent enough to form my own opinions on matters.
 
cymatty said:
Well I am sure the North West can breath a sigh of relief as I am not there at the moment.

Honestly people make me laugh, just because I read a certain paper does not mean I agree with all of its views, I am more than intelligent enough to form my own opinions on matters.
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If you had any intelligence you would not be reading it in the first place. If it was free, ala Metro I could half understand, but paying for it? I'm don't care if people read, the Guardian, the Times, the FT basically anything with properly reported news, buying the Mail is just a sign of someone being utterly stupid. No ifs, no buts just stupid. Just my view.
 
dangerstat said:
If you had any intelligence you would not be reading it in the first place. If it was free, ala Metro I could half understand, but paying for it? I'm don't care if people read, the Guardian, the Times, the FT basically anything with properly reported news, buying the Mail is just a sign of someone being utterly stupid. No ifs, no buts just stupid. Just my view.
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Much as I despise the Mail, I have to say that yours is a pretty stupid view as it goes.
 
semi-pro waster said:
If I'm following the implication of this.......
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If asked they wouldn't come out and say that but they like to leave just enough hints in the article to get their readership fired up. It's like talking in code, albeit a not so subtle one.

The Daily Mail notoriously omits the major facts so as to give the impression that there is something 'newsworthy' and important in their version of events.
 
Nitefly said:
I think that it is more of a moan without any particular direction, or perhaps that these individuals shouldn't be here in the first place.
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No, that specific quote suggests that the Government's direction to hospitals to not turn away pregant women about to give birth is somehow incorrect. Because they're foreign. It beggars belief.
 
vonhelmet said:
Much as I despise the Mail, I have to say that yours is a pretty stupid view as it goes.
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My view being that sensible people read news that isn't (or isn't mainly) derived to promote ill informed views and report (at the very least) poorly informed stories. Yes, I'm certainly stupid.
 
jp_bl_68 said:
The Daily Mail notoriously omits the major facts so as to give the impression that there is something 'newsworthy' and important in their version of events.
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The Guardian also omits fact to make stories fit it's agenda. It's not something exclusive to the Mail.
 
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