Danger! Relationship related thread inside

As others have said, I'd be extra careful about seeing someone whose willing to go behind their current partners back. If the romance has gone for her, why's she still seeing him? In X amount of time, when lust fades, will she do the same to you too?

I've had experience of this kind of relationship two or three times, most of which got completely weird due to ex-boyfriends still being on the scene. Stay well clear if you don't have 110% trust in her.

Otherwise, its obvious she has a *thing* going on for you. Who in their right mind casually asks someone out for dinner on Valintines day? That is to say, unless they seriously like you a lot!

Sounds like you need to have a deep and meaningful conversation with this girl, maybe over a bottle of red wine...... that way, whens shes drunk......... ;)
 
All you have to do is say "I'm not going to have the meal with you and I think you know why. Do what you have to do then maybe we can talk."

She'll want you so bad after that. He'll be dumped and she'll be on the phone to you the next day.
 
chopchop said:
i refuse to post a girl related thread and u seem to know your **** so id rather msn it

add me if u dont want others to see your addy, i think its in my trust profile ?

Please sir, I am not a therapist. :D I don't mind replying to threads, I love it, because I can compose my replies at my own leisure, and because they stand as a record to which I can refer to in the future, as can others for it is available for all to see, but I just don't have the time to Chat one on one. :D Its just not in the same community spirit that the Boards represent.

mejinks said:
Thanks. I really vlaue input like this. I never intended to start this thread as a "im too scared to talk to her what should I do" thread, so I think im going to go out with her on Tuesday, ask about her life in a general sort of way and mention her BF casually.

I think something along the lines of "its so nice to get out and have dinner as a treat once in a while" If she says something along the lines of "lets do it more often then Im going for it.

If however the answer is negative or not as rosy, well, theres dinner with this other girl the day after.

Or failing that a night out with the girl I actually do want to go out with.

If all else fails Palmela Handerson still loves me

Lets suppose just for one moment and imagine you're in her position. She goes to you to escape her Boyfriend. Think about that. She goes to you to escape her Boyfriend. She goes to you, to get what she cannot get from her Boyfriend. She, goes, to, you .... to, escape, boyfriend ... :D

Imagine you are her, and put yourself in her position .... Infact, its better to relate it differently, because we're blokes. :D

Imagine you've just come out of an exam that was absolutely torturous! The questions were incredibly hard, you were sweating, your heart was racing with fear ... it dragged on for hours and hours and hours and hours ... it was as if time stood still while you were in that exam hall ... so much of your life rests on this ... but then ... suddenly ... the examiner quietly says, "Pens down" ... and at that moment, you can relax and let out that sigh ... that sigh that its over ... that symbolic moment when you can forget the past 2 hours and look forward to an evening of fun and excitement with your friends, who make you feel absolutely fantastic and great ... a complete contrast to your last surrounding ... So you go somewhere fun, and all your friends are there ... but instead of having a fun and exciting time ... all your friends can talk about is the exam you just took, and they go on and on about it, and they make you relive the bad experience of the exam ... when all you want to do is unwind and relax and have fun ! How would you feel? You'd feel terrible ... you don't want to talk about the exam, you'll do anything to avoid the topic. All you want to do is have a fun and exciting time ...

See the moral of the fairy tale? :D

This girls boyfriend is that exam. You are her fun and excitement. She does not want to relive the experiences of the Boyfriend. She wants the live the experiences of fun and excitement with you! Thats why she doesn't want to talk about her Boyfriend. Thats why "talking things through" is a load of nonsense. No one, especially women, want to relive bad experiences. Particularly with people they specifically spend time with because they make them feel great and fantastic experiences, like you make her feel.

Do you honestly feel that she wishes to go to dinner with you and spend time with you, so you can discuss how useless and inept her Boyfriend is and how he makes her feel emotionally dead like a China dolly, very pretty, but empty inside, does she? No ... She most certainly does not want to hear that. I challenge any Woman on this Board to say otherwise ... infact, if any dared to, I'll put them out of the misery myself!
 
Personally I would go and just see how it pans out. If she makes a move on you, just stop her a second and say "if we're going to do this you have to split up with <insert name of boyfriend>". Don't make it a big spectacle, just whisper it if you're already close to her face on the advance to a kiss for example. If she doesn't make a move on you, you've had a nice night out for valentines day. If you make an advance on her (which you should do as preference usually) then just stop a few inches from her and do exactly as I said for if she advances on you, again not making a big spectacle of it.

Win-win situation tbh, you just can't see the wood through the trees.

/edit: and I absolutely agree with Old Turkey, NEVER try and talk things like that through. I have done it quite recently (I'm sure some of you saw my thread) and it absolutely does not work! With the same girl I have made more progress in the last 48 hours than in a whole 2 months just by being constantly funny and taking her mind of things. I'm sure Old Turkey will agree with me here that David DeAngelo is god :D .
 
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Old Turkey said:

Powerful stuff, I am not worthy....

OK, I will go out with her and talk about the fun stuff she has in her life like her teaching etc. As I will be driving, I guess it can't hurt to let her have a glass of wine or three ;)

I'll go without expectations and anything that does happen is a bonus right?

I guess only she can answer the question that she feels something for me.
 
mejinks said:
OK, I will go out with her and talk about the fun stuff she has in her life like her teaching etc. As I will be driving, I guess it can't hurt to let her have a glass of wine or three ;)

I'll go without expectations and anything that does happen is a bonus right?
Good! That's exactly the right attitude to have :) .
mejinks said:
I guess only she can answer the question that she feels something for me.
You shouldn't need to ask ;) . In fact I would go as far as to say DON'T ASK. You should be able to tell from the way she is acting.
 
St0rmer66 said:
Good! That's exactly the right attitude to have :) .

You shouldn't need to ask ;) . In fact I would go as far as to say DON'T ASK. You should be able to tell from the way she is acting.


Exactly you shouldn't need to ask, although sometimes, it's not that clear, i've had times when i've been genuinely shocked to find out that someone likes me, and i've also had times where it seemed from the way they were acting that they liked me, only to be told to sod off :confused: bloody women :D But it's just no fun without some kind of uncertainty, if we always knew the results of everything before we did them there would be no fun in life.

Life is to damn short to fanny about, which reminds me i really need to ask a bird at work out :)
 
Update:

Went for the meal. Talked endlessly about nothing in particular.

Instead of a card, I got a beanie camel called Niles. Future plans are to go to the cinema and other outings like Oakwood/AT/Blackpool.

Im far too confused to ask of its just a plutonic friendship.

All during school, I knew of her but never spoke to her really. Actualy not ever, so its really weird why she would want to bother with me.
 
mejinks said:
Update:

Went for the meal. Talked endlessly about nothing in particular.

Instead of a card, I got a beanie camel called Niles. Future plans are to go to the cinema and other outings like Oakwood/AT/Blackpool.

Im far too confused to ask of its just a plutonic friendship.

All during school, I knew of her but never spoke to her really. Actualy not ever, so its really weird why she would want to bother with me.

It's not plutonic. DO NOT get yourself involved with someone who has a partner, it just isn't worth the heartache. If she wants to go further, make sure she's finished with her boyfriend before anything happens.

Trust me. Don't go there.

Ant :cool:
 
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