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Dark days, AMD share price at lowest ever.

I'm considering a Fury X purely because I want an AIO for low temperatures and silence and the Nvidia 980Ti Hybrid is much more expensive, anyone else feel the same? Performance is good enough for my needs at 1920x1200 and a decent upgrade over a GTX 690.

I intend to buy in August and I hope the stock levels will be better by then and the cards will be 425-500 pounds with the fixed pump. If they are available at this sort of price in reasonable quantities I think AMD may get some market share back and things might not look so black for them, obviously this is if they can make a reasonable profit at this price point.
 
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ltron said:
I'm considering a Fury X purely because I want an AIO for low temperatures and silence and the Nvidia 980Ti Hybrid is much more expensive, anyone else feel the same? Performance is good enough for my needs at 1920x1200 and a decent upgrade over a GTX 690.

I intend to buy in August and I hope the stock levels will be better by then and the cards will be 425-500 pounds with the fixed pump. If they are available at this sort of price in reasonable quantities I think AMD may get some market share back and things might not look so black for them, obviously this is if they can make a reasonable profit at this price point.
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The 980Ti Hybrid's are more expensive but then decently faster as well.
If they drop prices to 425 then the FuryX would sure be an attractive buy. That is soignee I said form the very beginning, the cards are good but they just don't hit the price-performance of Nvidia cards right now.

If you look at the 2 graphs here (first is average, second is minimums).
http://techreport.com/r.x/radeon-r9-fury/value-fps.gif
http://techreport.com/r.x/radeon-r9-fury/value-99th.gif


If you draw a straight line between the Fury and FuryX and another between the 980 and 980TI you can see that the Fury cards sit on a trend line that is clearly lower than the 980s. If you shift the Fury cards $100 to the left then the average FPS per dollar is the same as the 980, if you shift them another $100 then the minimums (99th percentile) also matches up with Nvidia.

So shift the cards abut $150 or £100 leftwards and the a=AMD cards look more competitive.

FuryX at £425 vs 980Ti at £500
Fury £325-350 vs 980 at £360.
390X at £300 vs 980 at £360 or 970 at £250

Then there would be good reasons to buy AMD cards. As it is Nvidia just make more sense, full stop, let alone they are in stock, the Tis have more VRAM, they all have HDM2.0 and no pump whine issues.


It wont be difficult for AMD to make a compelling reason to go with them (price cut), but without the stock they wont do that. It then remains to be seen if they will or wont. The risk AMD have with a price cut is that Nvidia can follow suit, and Nvidia's cards are cheaper to make so Nvidia will enjoy a higher profit margin .
 
ltron said:
I'm considering a Fury X purely because I want an AIO for low temperatures and silence and the Nvidia 980Ti Hybrid is much more expensive, anyone else feel the same? Performance is good enough for my needs at 1920x1200 and a decent upgrade over a GTX 690.

I intend to buy in August and I hope the stock levels will be better by then and the cards will be 425-500 pounds with the fixed pump. If they are available at this sort of price in reasonable quantities I think AMD may get some market share back and things might not look so black for them, obviously this is if they can make a reasonable profit at this price point.
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Sounds like a good idea to me. Much less expensive, yet still competitive in the latest games at high resolution.

Driver updates alone should improve performance on this very new hardware for the next few months :)
 
Based on what we know now, I don't see how driver updates are going to make up a 20-30% shortfall on overclocking ability

The aftermarket coolers on the 980ti are quiet enough that I wouldn't see the need for an AIO on one unless maybe running a tiny case or SLI/crossfire with no gap.

As DP says, I think the furyx needs a price cut to make it properly competitive
 
Dave2150 said:
Sounds like a good idea to me. Much less expensive, yet still competitive in the latest games at high resolution.

Driver updates alone should improve performance on this very new hardware for the next few months :)
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Much less expensive, only if AMD cut their prices.

Where do you think these driver improvements are going to come from? Fiji is the same GCN 1.2 architecture as Tonga scaled up to larger than Hawaii.
Do you think Nvidia wont also be able to make driver improvements?
 
Today was AMD's darkest day as AMD stock hit historically 52 week low at $1.65 worth $1.28bn, stock closed with $1.67 worth $1.29bn. :eek:

July is not a good month for AMD investors, today marked a month since Fury X launch, all Fury X products listed on OCUK but still no stocks with ETA overdue. Fury was launched just over a week ago with only 1 brand with less than 150 units still in stock. Nano is due to launch in August but again it will have very limited supply just like Fury so maybe limited to 1 to 3 AIBs.

Next week will be interesting, will AMD stock plunge again to hit around $1.50?
 
I'm not sure when AMD would have to file chapter 11 bankruptcy? They have a certain amount of cash they have to keep in reserve for creditors and I estimate a share value around $1.0 will probably see them start a firesale on IP.

But hey, the company I work for was practically bankrupt on monday and now we have at least 2 months left to doss around:D
 
D.P. said:
I'm not sure when AMD would have to file chapter 11 bankruptcy? They have a certain amount of cash they have to keep in reserve for creditors and I estimate a share value around $1.0 will probably see them start a firesale on IP.

But hey, the company I work for was practically bankrupt on monday and now we have at least 2 months left to doss around:D
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Will depend a bit on the confidence of 3rd parties who have a stake in AMD one way or another - if they hold their ground AMD will likely scrape through - if too many of them get cold feet I can't see them existing as is this time next year.

A lot of companies operate at a loss, etc. with a long term business structure and so on.
 
I guess console-building contracts aren't worth all that much, profit wise.

If AMD fall too far, I fear the wallet damage our new Nvidia overlords will inflict.

Just like with CPUs...
 
Must admit I thought that in getting the new console apus it would give amd a bit of breathing space in order to develop some big jump new gpus but it seems that's not happening in the short term - although I fancy I will be purchasing a r9 390 to replace my 7950
 
It's still an unpredictable time though, DX12 may be the next big hope but I think it has quite a lot of potential to rock the boat.

Mind you, the impact of that probably won't be felt for a couple of years.
 
ltron said:
I'm considering a Fury X purely because I want an AIO for low temperatures and silence and the Nvidia 980Ti Hybrid is much more expensive, anyone else feel the same? Performance is good enough for my needs at 1920x1200 and a decent upgrade over a GTX 690.

I intend to buy in August and I hope the stock levels will be better by then and the cards will be 425-500 pounds with the fixed pump. If they are available at this sort of price in reasonable quantities I think AMD may get some market share back and things might not look so black for them, obviously this is if they can make a reasonable profit at this price point.
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I'd definitely recommend a Fury, if you want low temperatures and silence :)
 
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