Cheers @orbitalwalsh - but, that's a Mortar and no m.2 drive installed. The Tomahawk worked with a standard SSD - but i have a nagging suspicion over pressure on the m.2 slot.
Dark Rock 4 owners - i need re-assurance.
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Thoughts on my bar over screw fitting theroy, @EsaT?
Couldn't build in the end- kids then more work - so I have time to take a consensus of opinion...
Agree (i'm not happy) - but looking for quick/temporary solution to test socket with a fitting i can trust for another (stock levels disappearing - can't source a Mugen from reputable place - will look again later tonight.
Thoughts on my bar vs screw theory?
Price not really an issue (within reason) - good shout re unicorn vomit version. (i'd never hear the end of it)
Hadn't thought of that one - i would get a NH-U14S/NH-D15 if i trusted the socket - but need to establish a base. So, i'm going to install the stock cooler tomorrow, fit it into the case and if it works, i may chuck on the DR 4 - or pussy out and order a cooler with a more controlled method of installing.
Thanks, @EsaT.
Useful, info - on my phone now heading back home. Knackered.
Decided to mount stock cooler and test tomorrow. If all is tickety-boo then I may put the previously installed DR4 back on, as mentioned.
@orbitalwalsh, searched out some similar builds, using a NVMe coupled with a DR4 on a Tomahawk so there's proof out there that combo works (thanks again, bud). I may give it a day of testing with stock and then apply a DR4 that's been a staple for a lot of builds for a couple of years. Had the motherboard fault not been so ambiguous I wouldn't be trying to second guess the build in-between down time.
Just need to find time tomorrow to build and put theories to test...
Decided to mount stock cooler and test tomorrow. If all is tickety-boo then I may put the previously installed DR4 back on, as mentioned.
@orbitalwalsh, searched out some similar builds, using a NVMe coupled with a DR4 on a Tomahawk so there's proof out there that combo works (thanks again, bud). I may give it a day of testing with stock and then apply a DR4 that's been a staple for a lot of builds for a couple of years. Had the motherboard fault not been so ambiguous I wouldn't be trying to second guess the build in-between down time.
Just need to find time tomorrow to build and put theories to test...
Possibly, but suspect i will get a generic reply that they're happy with the design of their units. Plus, the 2 units i have look fine and we all seem to be in agreement that the gap, before tightening, between bar and retention bracket seems standard - take a look ----> https://imgur.com/75LJZvl
I've stripped it all down - and packed up suspect board.
Now back to square one again - fresh board unpacked, CPU in - think i'll install stock cooler - get it up and running, hopefully, and decide from a position of relative strength...
Grabbing an hour - quickly assembled and inside the case (no point breadboard as cleared all other components) and testing with stock cooler.
Switched on, setup BIOS - and now beginning install process and then driver install...
*Christ, the stock cooler is noisy!
Switched on, setup BIOS - and now beginning install process and then driver install...
*Christ, the stock cooler is noisy!
Installed:
Looking good, so far, no flashes, strange delayed starts - although early days the original board would have corrupted the drive by now.
EDIT: Slay the Spire works - hardly the most taxing game, but another successful restart. Cinebench score was 200 lower than with DR4. All restarts OK, so far. Going to install FarCry 5 and run benchmark for comparison plus I may get #1 son to play it for an hour as this is better than synthetic stress testing. Then perhaps Arma 3 - but will take hours to DL with mods - but worthy test.
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Looking good, so far, no flashes, strange delayed starts - although early days the original board would have corrupted the drive by now.
EDIT: Slay the Spire works - hardly the most taxing game, but another successful restart. Cinebench score was 200 lower than with DR4. All restarts OK, so far. Going to install FarCry 5 and run benchmark for comparison plus I may get #1 son to play it for an hour as this is better than synthetic stress testing. Then perhaps Arma 3 - but will take hours to DL with mods - but worthy test.
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Thanks, @doyll.
It is thanks, bud - but with stock cooler :/ (You can imagine my torment.)
Still, seems OK and very obvious that it doesn't have the previous neurotic issues. Not played anything in anger yet - but may get the chance tomorrow - only crunched data.
Pretty much decided to avoid the DR4 fitting (may change my mind) and will attach a Mugan 5, (when back in stock) as it's one of the easiest/gentler fittings for a large cooler - more so than Noctua. So, with current events I'm going to play it safe and wait for Mugan 5 to have stock again and then swap out this insanely noisy stock cooler. (Why we advocate the stock cooler instead of cheap 120mm cooler - if funds are there - as a viable option for the sake of ~£20 seems nuts now that I've lived with this for a day. I know i'm fussy with regard to noise - but, honestly, it sucks.)
*If times were different i would strap on the DR4 - but the Mugan is a safer option and i'll hopefully have silent system 'relatively' soon. Maybe not as silent as i would like - but needs must as the devil drives, and i need a stable machine sharpish without the nagging uncertainty of instability occurring in the future (rarely gets used for games).
Try DR4 last time, if broken, get your money back
Normally, i would totally agree (and i do) - but current times and supply are making this decision suddenly more complex.What orbitalwalsh said. Previous motherboard problems was most likely defective, so using DR4 is highly unlikely to change anything .. except temps and noise.
I'm may return the DR4 to the retailer (undecided) and, agree, it's probably perfectly fine, but i want a gentler attachment for this build due to my nagging suspicions about the motherboard. It may not be an inherent fault/combo with the MB - but i'm not prepared to experiment within this current climate/shortages. Plus, it's a complicated fault to explain in the CS forum and if it were to die again - my back would would really be up against it. (very likely a coincidence - but in the present climate i haven't got the luxury to experiment - parts becoming increasingly difficult to come by and my work needs a fully functioning, stable system.).
I will wait for OcUK to get stock of the Mugan 5, for fitting reasons explained in above post - they at least package components properly, too. This motherboard appears to be stable - and i need a primary workstation i can trust - i'll wait for the Mugan's to come back in stock - probably have to wait a few months :/
Until then... "My god the noise!"
Stock Coolers: I loathe them, with a passion - the quality, noise, performance and now the gopping RGB :/
The last Thermalright i used was the Silver Arrow - the first incarnation with the terrifying central tightening nut, which you dared yourself to risk another turn... Now that bowed my p67 and z77 virtually in half - and they didn't bat an eyelid. It was for my own builds - I only installed the single fan version after that - with the one tower stack. Cooled just as efficiently, without the literal blood, sweat and tears - emphasis on blood.
Not used Thermalright recently on builds - Mugan 5 is my go to for family and friends as fits budgets and quality/performing unit. Plus, Noctuas and the odd DR4 (but no NVMe) - if look or silence is desired (i don't do RGB). I've installed other coolers against my advice - i.e. AIOs - but that's a personal dislike (more points of failure, noisy) which i don't enforce on friends. *Kids have no choice - and they have dampening cases too.
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