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DDR3>DDR2 Performance Decrease...AMD Hexacore

bongas

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hi, i wanted to know that how much performance decrease can one suffer with an AMD x6 1090T coupled with an AM2+ board considering that its hypertransport speed is limited till 2600MHz while the x61090T can support upto 3600MHz.

Remember that the question related to an AM3 board.(a comparison between an AM3 and an AM2+)

Look at this board from MSI:

http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=prodmbspec&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=&cat3_no=&prod_no=1883

This is one of the great boards for such low price and it also supports the
x6 1090T.
 
gareth170 said:
using it in a am2+ board won't lose any performance.

if u use it in a am2 board u would see a slight drop in performance..

the only different between am2+ & am3 is the ram and chipset 8 series
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It would be much appreciated if you provide valid proof to back it up.
 
@bigwayne....Thanks for making it easy for the readers to answer this query by posting my original thread.

Now , all you have talked about is rams but it is noteworthy that the main concern isn't rams and thier relative performances but instead i want you all to focus on the CPU performance considering that the hypertransport speed is limited in an AM2+ board as compared to an AM3 board.
 
@gareth170....... Did i get it wrong or you made a mistake that the maximum supported HT is 5200Mt/s......... i am pretty sure the link says 2600MT/s

(FOR AM2+ boards)
 
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@all....(specifically including BIGWAYNE)

thingemajib gave a satisfying answer which i accept solves this query.

b), the HT transfer rate, which is measured at twice the clock speed, as it can make one tranfer with the rise and fall of the clock signal (just like DDR ram). Some AM2+/AM3 processors have a HT speed of 1800MHz, hence a transfer rate of 3600MT/s (Mega-tranfers per second).

thats the reason.....thanks guys , this was a big help.

OCUK ROCKS AND so do thier Members........
 
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If i may stray from the topic and ask another question, would it be wrong?

Based on your answers i plan to upgrade my PC at the end of this year.

Current:
Lga775 board dg41rq
e7400 core 2 duo
2gb x 2 ddr2 kingston value ram @800MHz


Planned :
AM2+ board (the link provided in the 1st post)(MSI)
a pii x6 or a pii x4

rest system will remain unchanged.

note that the system will be for gaming ....(gfx is gts 250)
 
Maccy said:
I think the insults towards Big.Wayne can stop now guys.
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If you are refering to my post :confused: then i wuold like you to know that i am refraing from taking any sides.......AND I DID NOT ISNSULT HIM.........but instead i appreciate his efforts to the OCUK forums as well as my previous posts.

@Big wayne......Thanks:D
 
Guys please donot argue among yourselves rather concentrate on the question which I have asked.

Newest Question:

WHAT IS THE best possible option for me to upgrade my current setup.

NOTES:
1)I can 'tolerate' my current CPU for a maximum of 1 year.
2)I am not happy with my CPU ,e7400 because whenever i play games such as Assasins Creed 2 , Dragon age Origins, even Splinter Cell Conviction; my CPU usage is 100%. For me its an anomaly. Further i did not even think of playong the latest games such as mass effect 2 , Command an Conquer 4 and some old ones like FSX and MW2 because these games use my CPU at 100% .
3)Buying a used board is not appreciated so is the rams but i might buy a used CPU.
4)It is crucial to note that the system which i will be upgrading to SHOULD NOT LAST longer than 3 years.(thats right i said "should not")In a more explainatory way, I would imply it as a cheap system sufficient enough to lasts for 3 years Only.(the lasting of the PC is refering to GAMAING ONLY........ONLY GAMING.)It is noteworthy that my current CPU is not sufficient for gaming.

MY BUDGET IS : POUNDS 180.

Remember price should be according to a 3 year gaming system only. ie After 3 years its gaming power becomes as my current PC's gaming performance . (which is bad)
 
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@Someone, This will be my only upgrade in 3 years...i think i am crystal clear :p

every one who says that to change the board to an LGA 775 one...i don't think that its a viable option because in the same price tag i can get an AM2+ board which would allow a headroom for even a six core...


@Big wayne...i would like to point it out to you that there is no such word "prefere"; the correct spelling are "prefer". (please note it)

And i beg you bigwayne please can you read the post 40 and then one last time answer my question.........please i am really looking forward to your answer.
 
@ thingemajib

Specs are:

e7400
dg41rq intel board
2 x 2gb kingston value ram default clock at 800MHz
GTS 250
Cooler master 460 watts PSU
Cooler Master elite 330 case
250 GB Western Digital HDD....7200 Rpm.
LCD display with a maximum of 1680x1050 resolution.
 
@Theophany.....i like your premise but disagree with the conclusion.

Yes i will probably wait for a year until the bulldozer come out but will not buy it but instead i will opt for a P II x4 hence taking advantage of the price drop.

Because i have already stated that the cpu should only last me till 2013 July~August, and i am pretty sure that a bulldozer can pull all the way till 2015. (A rough estimate)
 
Big.Wayne said:
Heh thanks bongas :D . . . as long as you understand what I mean and my bad spelling does not "technically" mislead you (i.e 2MHz vs 2GHz) then commenting on peoples spelling is generally considered bad form! ;)
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Correct me if i am wrong, i think that the people of UK are really carefull of thier spellings and English as compared to the Americans who mostly spell words wrong and seem not to care about them.:rolleyes:
 
sastusbulbas

After selling my ram , cpu and board the total budget will be pounds 230 ~ 240

i dont think there is something wrong....the main reason is that my brother, he has an i7 920 with a 9500 gt......when he plays assasins creed 2 .....he can max it ou, My PC with a gts 250 can also max out the game.......but unfortunately with both cores at 100%......and my GOD i AM AMAZED THAT HIS CPU DOESN'T EVEN USE 20%?????????

Can you explain that....


i live in Pakistan......where we dont have diversifacation of cpu components....e.g
NO brands of CPU coolers except for : COOLER MASTER, ASUS (rare) , Xigmatek (few)
No G-Skill rams, or OCZ or blah..blah blah.....ONly kingston and corsair.
Suprisingly only No gigabyte boards ........


i can go on but i think i have described my country enough from a GAMERS point of view.
 
Can anyone explain what does this mean:

fast ram (e.g. pc2-1066) means you can set the ram speed, low at first, then overclock the fsb (which will increase the ram frequency) e.g
you set the ram to 533 (i.e. 1:1 with fsb) and overclock the fsb to 400, the ram will now be running at 800mhz etc. the key being the ram doesn't exceed it's rated speed and limit your overclock.


I found it on another forum.....from what i understand is that my ram wont be a bottleneck when i overclock my Cpu.
 
And also someone is selling his p45 board ...ASUS P5QC

ITs for pounds 56

is it viable to buy it.....what are my options after buying it????
 
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