sastusbulbas,
I don't think bongas is intending to buy a "£220 Hex Core" . . . I think "maybe" he is considering a £150 AMD® Phenom™ II X6 or perhaps even a £111 AMD® Phenom™ II X4
At the moment though he is just trying to understand his options and If it is "viable" for him to build an updated system using his DDR2 with an AM2+ mobo . . . . I can assure you his credit card is still in his pocket!
The topic here is really:
DDR3>DDR2 Performance Decrease...AMD Hexacore
so sadly most of your post above is off topic and belongs back in bongas original thread . . .
[LGA775] Board for Overclocking]
First of all Wayne read #1 by the OP, he clearly mentions the 1090T! At no point during the thread does opinion deviate from the 1090T opinion/performance.
Second as you state he is trying to understand his options, I personally don't think this is occuring, as usual on this Forum the advice is throw away the old and spend spend spend.
Thirdly, To quote Bonga! "
If i may stray from the topic and ask another question, would it be wrong?" As my post is in reference to this I would have thought your opinion on off topic a little off the mark. The OP wanders off topic by posting #22 and posing the question based on his current and planned route. Not off topic.
Now how did we get here?
If I remember correct he was interested in a 775 mobo and possibly a Quad as he thought he needed it, and without working out how that requirement was deduced he was being told hold on forget 775 what about an AMD £80 Quad (for gaming would this give any gain over an overclocked E7400).
So based on the change of topic within this thread at point #22 and to quote:
Note that the system will be for gaming.
Taking into consideration what he has, when he is thinking of upgrading, the lack of knowledge of what games are posing problems, and how many of those problems will no doubt be due to the bottlenecked CPU and what ever else the budget mobo he has is bottlenecking. I personally think the original OP is on a wild goose chase due to the "Upgrade bug" and AMD fanfare.
Maybe the OP should be asking these questions.
How much of a performance gain per pound will a decent second hand P45 motherboard give me with my current hardware?
How much performance increase will upgrading my memory give per pound?
Is my current GPU a limiting factor in gaming performance, will this benefit from 775 upgrades or become a bottleneck with an AMD X6 Phenom II system.
What is my budget and what can I purchase in my area of residence (he did state AMD cost more where he is located)
What upgrades will offer me better gaming performance per pound, for instance is Direct X11 important, will an overclocked E7400 with an ATI 5870 or X6 1090T with a GTS 250 be better, or a AM3/DDR3/GTX 450 and so forth, what will be available in 2011 etc etc.
I think considering his current components (we don't even know the rest of the system such as PSU etc) that AMD with DDR2 is a sideways step, and that moving up a notch with 775 is in keeping with his current system, it's a step forward which is not going to cost much and what he does spend on second hand components can be gained back when sold as loss will be minimal considering the imediate benefit.
So I still advocate either upgrading the core 775 components, or selling up and going Quad AM3/DDR3. If serious about gaming and want more performance go for i7 or Intel as it has been posted elsewhere that the i7 930 outperforms the 1090T in games but do consider the GPU performance and gains with these upgrades.
Why not post some benchies showing the performance difference between say the likes of an overclocked E7400 with a decent P45 motherboard and PC-8500 against the AMD equivalent you advocate and ask if he thinks it is worth the expendature?
You asked me in another thread if I was seriously asking him to consider spending £250 on legacy 775 (well no I wasn't but it does make sense as a cheap reasonable upgrade path for the owner of 775 kit), yet in some of the benchmarks posted such as here
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18182722 we can see the likes of an E8400 and Q9550 still pulling respectable frame rates.
Quite simply overclocking his current system will yield a lot of performance for minimal outlay, I was in a similar position to the OP, went against the grain and upgraded my 775 kit, I bought a Q9550 instead of following advice such as going AMD with an X4 955 or this years i7, with new choices on the horizon why bother, and looking at the benchies and thinking of noticeable real world apps what have I missed.
He plays games, he runs an E7400 stock due to a poor motherboard and uses a GTS 250 GPU, upgrading his current motherboard until he settles on what he requires is a no brainer. The fact that he can upgrade to a legacy 775 Quad later and still be getting competetive benchies in comparison with AM3 Phenom II Quads shows there is still some life left in 775 and that an AMD Quad with DDR2 is nothing more than a sideways step taking him no further than upgrading his 775 kit bit by bit would.
