DDR5 for gaming

Mr G

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I've been researching into DDR5 and can't make no sense of it all lately with conflicting feedback suggesting faster with loose timings then slower with tight timings.

I don't benchmark and mainly use my PC for gaming, I've have been looking at a TeamGroup kit at 6000MHz CL30 for £289 which is expensive but is it worth it?
 
Mr G said:
I don't benchmark and mainly use my PC for gaming, I've have been looking at a TeamGroup kit at 6000MHz CL30 for £289 which is expensive but is it worth it?
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No, not really. There are only a few IC's around in DDR5 right now, Micron A-die (worst), Samsung B-die (middle), Hynix M-die (great), and Hynix A-die (the best). You'll find the faster kits at the 6000 MT/s with C30 will be Hynix M-die so you are paying a bit for that. But you can get good 32GB (2x16GB) 5600 MT/s -6000 MT/s from £140-160, which are usually ADATA kits, with Samsung or Hynix IC's. These will be able to be tuned a bit to get you much better speeds/timings than on the box.

Obviously there is more to it than that, but look at it this way, DDR5 is moving at a pretty fast pace so if you spend nearly £300 vs, only ~£150, in a years time that £150 will likely get you something like a 7400MT/s kit, so you could spend twice and end up with something better, but not actually suffer that much in the mean time if at all, your CPU and board need to support those faster speeds though.

Flash back to a year ago and it was £500+ for a 32GB 6000 MT/s kit so don't think the prices won't drop as the technology matures in the market.
 
Thanks for that informative post and I've book marked it for future reference. I'll hold for now and see what the future brings as prices do seem to be dropping weekly.

@Journey - What good 5600MT/s kits do you recommend? I've seen many ADATA kits but unsure on the naming scheme they use to identify the kits suggested above... this would give me a better idea on what to search for.
 
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Mr G said:
Thanks for that informative post and I've book marked it for future reference. I'll hold for now and see what the future brings as prices do seem to be dropping weekly.

@Journey - What good 5600MT/s kits do you recommend? I've seen many ADATA kits but unsure on the naming scheme they use to identify the kits suggested above... this would give me a better idea on what to search for.
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Which cpu are you planning to get ?

AMD have auto tuning for there memory and reckon 6000mhz is the sweet spot for Zen 4
 
Mr G said:
I've been researching into DDR5 and can't make no sense of it all lately with conflicting feedback suggesting faster with loose timings then slower with tight timings.

I don't benchmark and mainly use my PC for gaming, I've have been looking at a TeamGroup kit at 6000MHz CL30 for £289 which is expensive but is it worth it?
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Absolutely not. Don't waste your money. RAM is defintely one area in gaming you can cheap out on. A £150-£200 kit will suit you don't need any more than 5600 either, and 4800 would probably be fine.
 
mickyflinn said:
Which cpu are you planning to get ?

AMD have auto tuning for there memory and reckon 6000mhz is the sweet spot for Zen 4
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Looking to build another Intel system for a family member. Will be an F-SKU CPU on another B660 or perhaps if a decent deal arises on a K-SKU CPU on a Z690.

Darujhistan said:
Absolutely not. Don't waste your money. RAM is defintely one area in gaming you can cheap out on. A £150-£200 kit will suit you don't need any more than 5600 either, and 4800 would probably be fine.
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Don't plan to waste money but currently looking at a 5600 MT/s CL36 kit (36-36-36-76) by Corsair.
 
I have found a kit of Corsair Vengeance 5600 CL36 for £184.99. Also found a kit of Kingston FURY Beast RGB 5600 CL36 for £177.36, all 32GB kits.

Not sure whether to proceed with the purchase or hold the line for a few more months before finalising the build.
 
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Mr G said:
I have found a kit of Corsair Vengeance 5600 CL36 for £184.99. Also found a kit of Kingston FURY Beast RGB 5600 CL36 for £177.36, all 32GB kits.

Not sure whether to proceed with the purchase or hold the line for a few more months before finalising the build.
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Tried both those kits.. Both work fine.... If you have the money why wait?? Play your games optimally now...
 
Mr G said:
Looking to build another Intel system for a family member. Will be an F-SKU CPU on another B660 or perhaps if a decent deal arises on a K-SKU CPU on a Z690.
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By F SKU, I assume you mean non-K not -F which just indicates no integrated GPU. The value it disappearing fast in the lower end parts due to price increases, OCUK want £199 for a 12400F, which is bonkers really considering the other options on the market as well.

It is going to be primarily a gaming system, but will it also be used as a do anything machine as well?
 
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Journey said:
By F SKU, I assume you mean non-K not -F which just indicates no integrated GPU. The value it disappearing fast in the lower end parts due to price increases, OCUK want £199 for a 12400F, which is bonkers really considering the other options on the market as well.

It is going to be primarily a gaming system, but will it also be used as a do anything machine as well?
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I paid £165 for my 12400F and I can't fault it at all. The PC will be purely for gaming and general internet usage etc.
 
LordBlood said:
In my new rig Im running 5600 Corsair dominator platinum C36 set to xmp profile and then turned up to 6000 . No issues at all so far
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Seems like the difference between a lot of 5600 and 6000 kits is .1v, the 5600 kits run at 1.25v and the 6000 run at 1.35v but the timing’s look the same. I did think of just changing to 6000 and bumping up to 1.35v, I might try it at some point although it probably would not make any perceivable difference outside of benchmarks(for my usage).
 
Darujhistan said:
Absolutely not. Don't waste your money. RAM is defintely one area in gaming you can cheap out on. A £150-£200 kit will suit you don't need any more than 5600 either, and 4800 would probably be fine.
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For an Intel based gaming platform this statement is so wrong, huge FPS gains can be had with fast memory, probably more than raw cpu clockspeed as 13th gen is fast enough at pretty much stock. Hynix M die is a great all rounder for most boards as these can be tunned to around 7000mhz with tight timings, to use A die's high mhz sticks you need a decent latest gen motherboard to make the most of them as you need to run 7600mhz+ to match M die.
As for AMD from what i hear a 6000mhz kit should be just fine.
 
Mr G said:
I have found a kit of Corsair Vengeance 5600 CL36 for £184.99. Also found a kit of Kingston FURY Beast RGB 5600 CL36 for £177.36, all 32GB kits.

Not sure whether to proceed with the purchase or hold the line for a few more months before finalising the build.
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If you don’t mind the cost, DDR5 is fine.

It’s poor value but it’s fine.

I would personally get the cheapest DDR5 kit possible as recent news articles point out that the price of DDR5 has fallen quite a lot over the past year.

Just know that there will always be newer, cheaper and faster tech down the road but if you want to play games now, you need to buy now.

I find DDR4 fine for my needs but I’m a seriously value orientated buyer who doesn’t want to spend £200 on a kit of RAM.

I’ve got a good dual rank 32gig DDR4 Samsung D die kit I spent £80 on that’s sort of far off high end RAM but far far cheaper.
 
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JollyJamma said:
If you don’t mind the cost, DDR5 is fine.

It’s poor value but it’s fine.

I would personally get the cheapest DDR5 kit possible as recent news articles point out that the price of DDR5 has fallen quite a lot over the past year.

Just know that there will always be newer, cheaper and faster tech down the road but if you want to play games now, you need to buy now.

I find DDR4 fine for my needs but I’m a seriously value orientated buyer who doesn’t want to spend £200 on a kit of RAM.

I’ve got a good dual rank 32gig DDR4 Samsung D die kit I spent £80 on that’s sort of far off high end RAM but far far cheaper.
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Sticking with DDR4 for now until I actually see a huge benefit for it.
 
Decided to dive in again... I'm potentially looking to buy into the AM5 platform very soon, AMD say the sweet spot is 6000 and have spotted a few of these CL36 EXPO kits floating around at £162. @Gibbo - Seen a few lower prices on Kingston memory, 6000 CL36. Any upcoming price reductions?
 
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Mr G said:
Decided to dive in again... I'm potentially looking to buy into the AM5 platform very soon, AMD say the sweet spot is 6000 and have spotted a few of these CL36 EXPO kits floating around at £162. @Gibbo - Seen a few lower prices on Kingston memory, 6000 CL36. Any upcoming price reductions?
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Yes, on the 15th there will be a huge price reduction on everything….also, the earth will end in 2012.
 
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