Death/Dying

hornetstinger · 16 Dec 2016 at 21:49

lol. no.

Also by your "logic" all will be revealed you should have been a viking in norse religion. Sorry about that.

Sliver · 16 Dec 2016 at 21:53

jagga1968 said:
all will be revealed after death...

just wait a while.

then we will all be certain and there will be no room for argument.

i will find out if i was brainwashed or not.

Your beliefs are not based on evidence and as such no rational, logical, truthful mind should believe them. It's mind garbage, there is no god.

hornetstinger · 16 Dec 2016 at 21:55

jagga1968 said:
all will be revealed after death...

just wait a while.

then we will all be certain and there will be no room for argument.

i will find out if i was brainwashed or not and so will you!

its a journey we are all on and we wont find out whats at the final destination until we get there.

that's right. You're in the wrong religion.

My book says so. It's true because it says so.

Sorry about that.

jagga1968 · 16 Dec 2016 at 21:55

(Woe that Day to the deniers!) (77:15)

enough preaching for one day lads.

good luck and i wish you success in this life and the next.

Sliver · 16 Dec 2016 at 21:58

jagga1968 said:
(Woe that Day to the deniers!) (77:15)

Trolling much? Your in the wrong place if proselytizing is your thing. :rolleyes:

hornetstinger · 16 Dec 2016 at 21:58

jagga1968 said:
(Woe that Day to the deniers!) (77:15)

quoting the quran doesn't prove anything, just shows you can't think for yourself.

There is no next life. That's how your cult works- tell you to obey "or else" mohammed just copied the religions of the time.

jagga1968 · 16 Dec 2016 at 21:59

just giving my opinion about the Death/Dying the subject title.

wasnt really proselytizing.

and i knew what sort of reaction i would get.

your all free to believe or disbelieve whatever you like.

many people who believe in a religion understand the concept of heaven or hell it doesnt mean they are all crazy.

hornetstinger · 16 Dec 2016 at 22:01

your opinion doesn't mean anything, as it's based on religious belief and thus fiction.

By using a "reward" and "punishment" you are a pawn.

Akagi · 16 Dec 2016 at 22:01

Its easier to say that you personally don't believe that there is a next life. Telling someone with religious beliefs that the things they believe in are tripe will always result in an endless argument. They aren't going to change their ingrained beliefs because someone on the internet tells them they are wrong. To them it would be the same as someone saying "Allah/Jesus is real!" and you having an epiphany and realising you were wrong all along, won't happen, and won't happen the opposite way either!

Its easier to accept that it is someones belief and that everyone is entitled to their own. You can't have a fair, rounded and reasoned debate about religion.

Sliver · 16 Dec 2016 at 22:03

jagga1968 said:
just giving my opinion about the Death/Dying the subject title.

wasnt really proselytizing.

and i knew what sort of reaction i would get.

Why bother? If it's true for you then it's true for you, no need to proselytize. You can have your own beliefs but you can not have your own facts. You need to realise that blind belief is a fallacy. :rolleyes:

and one more roll eyes in case you missed the first. :rolleyes:

hornetstinger · 16 Dec 2016 at 22:04

jagga1968 said:
and i knew what sort of reaction i would get.

your all free to believe or disbelieve whatever you like.

That's because in your book it says people won't believe and mock - just like the bible does, and pretty darn obvious to those with some intellience to write a book with "people won't believe in these fantastic stories, but by me saying that, that just proves I am right"

lol

jagga1968 · 16 Dec 2016 at 22:04

not here to start a religious debate lads.

Sliver · 16 Dec 2016 at 22:08

jagga1968 said:
not here to start a religious debate lads.

Shut up then about your faith. :rolleyes:

We don't CARE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

robotSocks · 16 Dec 2016 at 22:10

jagga1968 said:
not here to start a religious debate lads.

twit.

FutileBreadMachine · 16 Dec 2016 at 22:10

I saw an interesting argument against the idea of "no sorrow in heaven" by this popular atheist on Youtube (forgot his name). His mother was a devout Christian, but he said it was impossible for her to go to heaven, a place without sorrow, since she would surely be sad that her son had been sent to hell for being a non-believer. If she was not sad due to God taking away her sorrow, then that would not really be his mother, since how could she not be sad about her son being in hell for eternity? It would basically be like a robot or a copy of her.

Noxia · 16 Dec 2016 at 22:10

Flippin eck, it's like those preachers of whatever faith that holler in city centers have finally found out about forums.

jagga1968 · 16 Dec 2016 at 22:11

Sliver said:
Why bother? If it's true for you then it's true for you, no need to proselytize. You can have your own beliefs but you can not have your own facts. You need to realise that blind belief is a fallacy. and one more roll eyes in case you missed the first.

religous people are entitled to air our opinion now and again, just like everyone else has in this 14 page thread especially when the subject title is death/dying the OP wanted peoples opinions so i decided to share mine.

trouble is you guys dont wanna hear it cos deep down what i am saying scares you.

PDW · 16 Dec 2016 at 22:12

jagga1968 said:
many people who believe in a religion understand the concept of heaven or hell it doesnt mean they are all crazy.

Yes it does.

All religion = Mumbo jumbo

Just an excuse for doing things that people shouldn't do to other people.

There is good and bad in the world, you choose how you want to behave.
Using religion as an excuse for your behaviour is your way of trying to reduce the blame of your actions.

jagga1968 · 16 Dec 2016 at 22:13

Noxia said:
Flippin eck, it's like those preachers of whatever faith that holler in city centers have finally found out about forums.

lol

Sliver · 16 Dec 2016 at 22:15

jagga1968 said:
religous people are entitled to air our opinion

Yes and atheists are entitled to shoot you down with empirical facts, evidence, rational thought and logic. Where is your evidence, rational thought and logic for your sky pixie?

Thought as much. Nothing. :rolleyes: