Death/Dying

Today I went with my Mum & Sister to find out about my Mums progress with her COPD and it was all bad news.
The Consultant said her lung capacity had massively reduced in a year from 38% to 27% and there was nothing he could do for her because she was getting worse by the week. He suggested an End Of Life Package and to sign a DNAR (Do Not Attempt Resuscitation) because it would be pointless. MacMillan were contacted and they will pick her up once a week to take her for meals & company for the day.
My Mum was totally fine with it and said she wanted it all to end as soon as possible and we are not to talk her out of the DNAR.
It hasn't hit me yet but I was amazed how she was so calm.

[TW]Fox will probably call me a liar but I don't care.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
Today I went with my Mum & Sister to find out about my Mums progress with her COPD and it was all bad news.
The Consultant said her lung capacity had massively reduced in a year from 38% to 27% and there was nothing he could do for her because she was getting worse by the week. He suggested an End Of Life Package and to sign a DNAR (Do Not Attempt Resuscitation) because it would be pointless. MacMillan were contacted and they will pick her up once a week to take her for meals & company for the day.
My Mum was totally fine with it and said she wanted it all to end as soon as possible and we are not to talk her out of the DNAR.
It hasn't hit me yet but I was amazed how she was so calm.

[TW]Fox will probably call me a liar but I don't care.
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COPD has nothing to do with cancer so why is MacMillan involved? :confused:

My mum has had both still has COPD but she luckily dodged the cancer as it was caught very early.
 
Very sorry to hear that mate. I honestly fear losing my mum more than my own death.

I am not really scared of fying. I dont know why, but I just feel confident that my consciousness will wake again. I hesitate to call it reincarnation as that would indicate a soul, past lives and the same person being reborn, but I just think the brain dies and after time, our consciousness awakes in a new one.

what gives us our consciousness. No one in the world knows or will ever know. I just cant see nothingness for eternity.

Maybe our consciousness grows over time and through different lives. In a way, that could explain the evolution of the human brain over thousands of years. Maybe we are not a book of life, but a mere chapter in a very long novel, evolving and maturing over centuries. Maybe this is natures way of ensuring that we will one day be advanced enough to continue our evolution on another planet when this one has gone.

I think I need another beer.
 
Having been a non-believer in the afterlife for quite some time I've found it takes losing someone very close to you to make you wish/hope that there is something else after this and you certainly start to question things more.

I can't say that I particularly fear death itself but the thought of leaving my wife and child terrifies me!
 
Life is hard so the thought of endless silence is appealing..

I've thought what good have i done in this world, all i've done is make some proud, some smile and thousands of people comfortable through work..

I guess i'll leave the earth in better shape than how i was born into it, i guess it depends on your perspective.. I've done nothing to help animal life though..

The scary part of life and death is going thinking you've contributed nothing and achieved nothing..

It's likely the case i'll feel tired and worn out before death, the exact time my body shuts down isnt scary to me, it'll be interesting, no consciousness, no wind blowing through the trees, no earth, no universe, no brian telling me these things exist, but we will all live on within the elements.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
Today I went with my Mum & Sister to find out about my Mums progress with her COPD and it was all bad news.
The Consultant said her lung capacity had massively reduced in a year from 38% to 27% and there was nothing he could do for her because she was getting worse by the week. He suggested an End Of Life Package and to sign a DNAR (Do Not Attempt Resuscitation) because it would be pointless. MacMillan were contacted and they will pick her up once a week to take her for meals & company for the day.
My Mum was totally fine with it and said she wanted it all to end as soon as possible and we are not to talk her out of the DNAR.
It hasn't hit me yet but I was amazed how she was so calm.

[TW]Fox will probably call me a liar but I don't care.
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Very sorry to hear that. Horrible time.

My dad died of lung cancer in 2002. At the end he said he had had enough and didn't want to go on. I let the nurses know he didn't want to be resuscitated and they asked me if I knew what I was asking them. They were so firm about asking if I understood.

Half an hour later they gave him some morphine. He fell asleep and died peacefully a few minutes after. I still have mixed feelings about what I asked and I won't know for sure either way. At least your mum is making that decision for you. It's probably the last gift she can give.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
Today I went with my Mum & Sister to find out about my Mums progress with her COPD and it was all bad news.
The Consultant said her lung capacity had massively reduced in a year from 38% to 27% and there was nothing he could do for her because she was getting worse by the week. He suggested an End Of Life Package and to sign a DNAR (Do Not Attempt Resuscitation) because it would be pointless. MacMillan were contacted and they will pick her up once a week to take her for meals & company for the day.
My Mum was totally fine with it and said she wanted it all to end as soon as possible and we are not to talk her out of the DNAR.
It hasn't hit me yet but I was amazed how she was so calm.

[TW]Fox will probably call me a liar but I don't care.
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:(

It's nice to hear she's calm.

Hades said:
Very sorry to hear that. Horrible time.

My dad died of lung cancer in 2002. At the end he said he had had enough and didn't want to go on. I let the nurses know he didn't want to be resuscitated and they asked me if I knew what I was asking them. They were so firm about asking if I understood.

Half an hour later they gave him some morphine. He fell asleep and died peacefully a few minutes after. I still have mixed feelings about what I asked and I won't know for sure either way. At least your mum is making that decision for you. It's probably the last gift she can give.
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Wow, that's pretty intense :eek:


I've been reading about DMT, a naturally occurring drug which people take and then report back as being taken to another dimension, it sounds absolutely crazy but who knows...
 
robfosters said:
Very sorry to hear that mate. I honestly fear losing my mum more than my own death.

I am not really scared of fying. I dont know why, but I just feel confident that my consciousness will wake again. I hesitate to call it reincarnation as that would indicate a soul, past lives and the same person being reborn, but I just think the brain dies and after time, our consciousness awakes in a new one.

what gives us our consciousness. No one in the world knows or will ever know. I just cant see nothingness for eternity.

Maybe our consciousness grows over time and through different lives. In a way, that could explain the evolution of the human brain over thousands of years. Maybe we are not a book of life, but a mere chapter in a very long novel, evolving and maturing over centuries. Maybe this is natures way of ensuring that we will one day be advanced enough to continue our evolution on another planet when this one has gone.

I think I need another beer.
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Oddly I've just had a massive case of de ja vu, in quoting your post (and replying with this very post) and writing in this thread after reading Sexygreyfox's post.
 
I reckon I must be very rare on here going by other threads we've had here.
Up to yet I've had both my parents for 58 years which must sound like fantasy to some folk on here. I've got 28 cousins (average 2 a family) and I'm the only one who has still got both parents.
 
The viewpoint of quran is very clear. according to the quran surah yasin ayah 40, the sun and the moon keep moving in their orbits. this makes it clear that the sun moves too.

no where in the quran does it say that the sun orbits the earth.

The quran also accurately describes the development of the fetus.

The quran also accurately describes how two Oceans that Meet but do not mix and many other facts that science has only recently discovered. many examples here https://www.missionislam.com/science/book.htm
 
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'The hearts of the people of Paradise will be pure, their speech will be good, their deeds righteous. There will be no hurtful, upsetting, offensive or provocative talk '

from your previous posts jagga, you wont be going to heaven
 
all will be revealed after death...

just wait a while.

then we will all be certain and there will be no room for argument.

i will find out if i was brainwashed or not and so will you!

its a journey we are all on and we wont find out whats at the final destination until we get there.
 
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