Death of Moto2 rider.

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The race probably should have been stopped yeah I mean you could tell right away it was really quite horrific.

It made me cringe and feel a bit sick cos you knew right away it was serious. Should have had proper medical staff out there ASAP

I think his injuries where so serious though that even then it wouldn't have been enough, not that I'm justifying it at all.

So glad this sort of thing is so very rare usually you see riders back up and about

Only 19 year's old tragic :(
 
Dorna it seems are having clips of the crash removed from YT (copywrite claim)..

I didn't see the race, as I don't watch any TV.. But looking at the same clip hosted on an Italian news site I can perhap's see why, with a rider seriously injured on the track the race should have been stopped.
 
Went out on the bike this morning, so I’ve only just watched it, shocking accident :(

Not a good sign when they were checking for a pulse whilst he was being stretchered off – not to mention dropping the poor guy!

Pretty tragic, but they all know the risks, as do we as fans of racing, at least he went doing something he loved – just feel for his friends and family.
 
Just got home and watched the motogp on iplayer so heard about this, it's very sad :(

I have to agree with the comments about the marshals, they pretty much threw Scott Reading onto a spinal board with no assessment and dropping Tomizawa is unforgivable :(
 
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RIP, tragic past few weeks for bikes.

3 in motorsports

5 (maybe 6?) bike deaths in the Stoke/Stafforshire area in the last two weeks :(
 
cdcopyman said:
R.I.P
cant beleave they didnt stop the motogp :confused: :mad:
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At the time the MotoGP race started it wasn't known that he had died

Jay Psi said:
While I agree that the marshals could have handled the situation better, because the race hadn't been stopped they had to move fairly sharpish, or risk becoming part of an accident themselves.
But nothing gets in the way of the race, right Dorna :rolleyes:
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jon.bda said:
Exactly, should have been red flagged as soon as it happened...any other series it would have been...
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An official explanation as to why race as not stopped :-
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2010/Press+Conference+Race+Direction+Shoya+Tomizawa

Shoya was a rider that displayed real talent as was , for sure, going to be a champ.
Winning the first Moto2 race showed what he was capable of.
Tragic loss to the sport and my heart felt feelings go out to his family.
Thoughts are also with Scott Redding and Alex de Angelis, they must be feeling really low after that.
 
FatBoyObese said:
At the time the MotoGP race started it wasn't known that he had died



An official explanation as to why race as not stopped :-
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2010/Press+Conference+Race+Direction+Shoya+Tomizawa

Shoya was a rider that displayed real talent as was , for sure, going to be a champ.
Winning the first Moto2 race showed what he was capable of.
Tragic loss to the sport and my heart felt feelings go out to his family.
Thoughts are also with Scott Redding and Alex de Angelis, they must be feeling really low after that.
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The report in the link is a disgrace. They say they did not stop the race because the track was clear by the time the riders came round again. It was only clear because of the way they dragged the riders off the track without any proper medical assessment. I can't think of any other motorsport where that would happen. It was clear that it was a very serious accident and the riders should have had medical attention.
 
I was so shocked to see Redding being dragged onto a stretcher, no checks made on his neck/back, nothing! Never move a fallen biker without assessing them first. It might be that the marshalls are at fault for Tomizawa's death if they had moved him with a broken back or neck without splinting it first.
 
Official explanation sounds very much like passing the buck and declaring it not their fault.

You can't just pass off poor treatment with "that's racing".. If you crashed on the road you'd get better care than that, this is supposed to be top class motorcycle racing. Would an F1 race have been stopped in similar circumstances or would they have just dragged the driver out of the way?

I doubt it would have made any difference but he and Redding deserved better.
 
andi said:
Official explanation sounds very much like passing the buck and declaring it not their fault.

You can't just pass off poor treatment with "that's racing".. If you crashed on the road you'd get better care than that, this is supposed to be top class motorcycle racing. Would an F1 race have been stopped in similar circumstances or would they have just dragged the driver out of the way?

I doubt it would have made any difference but he and Redding deserved better.
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Unfortunatley when you crash on the road you are not being broadcast live to 60million people with only certain TV slots along with millions of pounds in advertising. Stopping a race is not as easy as that. If they can clear the track and get the riders to medical attention before the bikes come around once again, then that's what they are going to do.
 
thedoc46 said:
Unfortunatley when you crash on the road you are not being broadcast live to 60million people with only certain TV slots along with millions of pounds in advertising. Stopping a race is not as easy as that. If they can clear the track and get the riders to medical attention before the bikes come around once again, then that's what they are going to do.
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The problem with that is that in the interests of safety you need to give a medical examination before moving anyone, especially when the accident was as bad as this one sounds (I haven't seen the race personally). You can't just say 'chuck 'em on a stretcher and let the show go on'.

I race at a club level, and I know there are less pressures on the club than on Dorna, but if I somebody goes down and doesn't get up in one of my races then the race is red flagged and the medical car is sent out, this is what should happen in every race.

And frankly, if I was a Moto GP rider right now I wouldn't want to race when there's more consideration shown to some advertisers (because let's face it, viewers wouldn't care if the race is stopped for an accident) than there is for the safety of the riders...

Saying that, from what I've read today it wouldn't have helped Shoya, he was too badly injured, my condolences to friends/family and RIP Shoya Tomizawa.

I feel sorry for Scott Redding and Alex de Angelis, although the risks are known and I'm sure it wasn't intentional that doesn't change what happened and I can only imagine how that must feel.
 
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Fireskull said:
He lost the back end went down straight out of a corner, first guy crashed into I think his chest then the second rider which I think was Scott basically from what I could see ran over his head :(
Cant imagine what the other two riders are feeling now either.

RIP :(
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They just played the clip on the local news (because Scott is from round this way). Exactly what how you described :(.


See what you all mean about the marshals! They did it all as quickly as they could without a thought of what they were doing! Though to be fair to them perhaps they knew that the race wouldn't be red flagged and were just trying to get the riders out of harms way ASAP (but of-course they should have checked them out before even getting them onto the board!).
 
thedoc46 said:
Unfortunatley when you crash on the road you are not being broadcast live to 60million people with only certain TV slots along with millions of pounds in advertising. Stopping a race is not as easy as that. If they can clear the track and get the riders to medical attention before the bikes come around once again, then that's what they are going to do.
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Being broadcast to the world is surely a reason why you should be getting the best possible treatment. I can't be the only one to think this, this incident has put a black mark on the sport, and if I was a moto2 racer I'd be worried about the treatment I'd get if I ever needed it.

I love motorbike racing, its far more exciting than cars, but it does lack the professionalism seen in top class car racing in a lot of ways..
 
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