No offence but I highly doubt this is the case. 32 players online is never going to compete with the air and ground war that often has hundreds of players in a small area of the map in wwiiol. As for planning, you really need to be part of a squad in wwiiol, then theres planning aplenty, voice comms, ground/air coordination... anyway, each to his own.
Decent flight sims
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No offence but I highly doubt this is the case. 32 players online is never going to compete with the air and ground war that often has hundreds of players in a small area of the map in wwiiol. As for planning, you really need to be part of a squad in wwiiol, then theres planning aplenty, voice comms, ground/air coordination... anyway, each to his own.
No, but you won't hold back from slurring me as a fanbois because I have a different opinion to you?
I'm only interested in the air war part and as such my comments stand, map size can be just as much a problem as a boon, vast empty fronts do not in my opinion make it at all authentic and in fact make it worse.
As do IL2 Wars.
Nothing different from IL2 excepting being able to play as ground forces.
Ditto IL2.
Again, ditto IL2, maybe not the 30 strong group though
Not at all, it's an opinion, that's all.
Doubt all you like, it's only my opinion and last time I played WWII Online there were never any battles anywhere near that size.
Actually that is far more 'authentic' than 30 people in a relative shoe box, what a strange thing to say. Not that busy skies (or ground) are not easy to find.
Yes, you may only be interesting in the air war, the point is that it's more authentic as a component of the whole war. Also...surely the fact that those paras you're flying, or the armour you are supporting below, are real people, must add to the 'authenticity' of the experience?
Explain how these 24/7 wars work.
Again explain. Tell me the mechanics of the bombing and how it effects RDP and who are these ground forces you are supporting?
Riiight. So how does this supply system work?
Again, ditto IL2, maybe not the 30 strong group though
OK, so you still claim that your relatively small bombing runs (as an example), are a 'far more authentic experience' than flying of in a large bomber formation from airfields in southern England to Germany? These runs can take hours. (That's not even to mention the differing consequences of these actions). Not only that, it makes WWIIO 'arcady by comparison'! I can understand someone liking one over the other but your comments are laughable really.
It's always been possible to find large battles in WWIIO, and now with brigade spawning, much more frequently so. To say never, is just not true.
http://www.forgottenskies.com/ForgottenWars/default.aspx
Maybe you should try and remember I said one of the IL2 online wars and not IL2 itself.
Maybe you should try and remember I said one of the IL2 online wars and not IL2 itself.
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Sounds really good for what it is. Having checked out their website I think you were being disingenius when you kept replying 'ditto' to those points (to put it politely). This is a very good sounding mission generated campaign system, with some great sounding features, but is not even remotely close to the WWII Online War simulation, in set-up, or in scope.
It also does nothing whatsoever to maintain your case that 'the mission planning being required it is a far more authentic experience than WWII Online which just becomes arcade in comparison.'
That was just a pure nonsense statement. Put the shovel down and step away from the hole.
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Regarding OP's request for 'decent flight simulators' - anyone know are there any out there that accurately mimic flight dynamics (phugoid, SPO, dutch roll, slow spiral...)?
I apologise if this has already discussed itt, but it the whole thing seems to have turned into a bit of a flame war
I apologise if this has already discussed itt, but it the whole thing seems to have turned into a bit of a flame war
I haven't tackled the definition of opinion, so no...I'm not (assuming you are repling to me).
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Well seeing as how my comment (and to be clear, I'm talking about the arcade one) that so riled your fanboi attitude was pure opinion I'd suggest you make the effort
Anyway, I'm done with this, I've stated my opinion, the fact that it differs to yours is another matter.
TBH I wouldn't have a clue how accurate a particular sim is but most will claim to be.
Do you want a combat sim particularly?I apologise if this has already discussed itt, but it the whole thing seems to have turned into a bit of a flame war
I know...isn't Dano naughty doing that?
Well seeing as how my comment (and to be clear, I'm talking about the arcade one) that so riled your fanboi attitude was pure opinion I'd suggest you make the effort
Anyway, I'm done with this, I've stated my opinion, the fact that it differs to yours is another matter.
LMFAO...me have a fanboi attitude! Nice one.
I know what you said was an opinion, you don't have to keep repeating the fact.
It is also an opinion that you were talking rubbish when you said:
'The go play on one of the online wars available for IL2, with the fact of mission planning being required it is a far more authentic expierience that WWII Online which just becomes arcade in comparison.' (sic)
The fact that you have been unable to support your 'opinion' is strong evidence that mine is more accurate.
If you're looking for a WWII era sim, the IL2 series is the only real option. If you're interested in modern aircraft and have the time required to learn Falcon 4 is the way forward. And F4:Allied Force is still available in the shops and makes a good starting point.
Not the best graphics on earth, it is essentially a 10 year old game. However with all the work the community has put in, nothing beats it in terms of realism.
Not the best graphics on earth, it is essentially a 10 year old game. However with all the work the community has put in, nothing beats it in terms of realism.
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TBH I wouldn't have a clue how accurate a particular sim is but most will claim to be.
I'd love to get a simulator for combat planes, but data isn't available on modern combat aircraft enough to make a proper simulator. Simulators mostly use civilian aircraft- they're not top secret, I suppose. I'll look into this IL2 thing, though I doubt it's an accurate dynamics simulator!
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I'd love to get a simulator for combat planes, but data isn't available on modern combat aircraft enough to make a proper simulator. Simulators mostly use civilian aircraft- they're not top secret, I suppose. I'll look into this IL2 thing, though I doubt it's an accurate dynamics simulator!
Would a Helicopter do? This is about as real as it gets without millions of pounds worth of equipment.
DCS:-Black Shark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRBls37N2gc&feature=related
Part 2:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5AA_hua7WU&feature=related
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I'd love to get a simulator for combat planes, but data isn't available on modern combat aircraft enough to make a proper simulator. Simulators mostly use civilian aircraft- they're not top secret, I suppose. I'll look into this IL2 thing, though I doubt it's an accurate dynamics simulator!
Not 100% true, Falcon 4 simulates the F-16 including ALL systems apart from IFF as that is about the only classified system.
95% of cockpit switches are modelled and functional.
I'd love to get a simulator for combat planes, but data isn't available on modern combat aircraft enough to make a proper simulator. Simulators mostly use civilian aircraft- they're not top secret, I suppose. I'll look into this IL2 thing, though I doubt it's an accurate dynamics simulator!
il2 1946 has very good physics, the up coming BoB is going to be superb.