Deciding whether to jump ship

It's their job to pay you as little as they think they can get away with, it's not personal. Find another job and move 14k a year is a joke.

im in the same boat for Discovery and packaging.
13K full time, atrocious as other companies pay 30k minimum

Quick question OP what company are you working for?
 
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Get CV done,

Start applying for jobs.

Get interview, research company greatly before interview, you will be surprised how many people I turn away for not wanting to spend half a hr or more on the company website.

Feign illness 1 days before interview day to save holidays.
 
I'm 20 for all those asking and get £1,050 after tax etc. When I started it was a good wage as I had no experience and had only recently finished college. Moving on to what will be my 3rd year soon and haven't had any form of wage increase.

Going to get my CV sorted and start putting myself out there; if I could I'd be happy to stay where I am as I like the people so will see if I can use potential offers to force an increase in my wage that way. Cheers for the advice guys
 
If they are trying to put one over on you now then they will continue to do so. As others have said often the only way to secure a decent increase is to move.

Get out of there and find something with better prospects. Would you consider the commute into London?
 
.... so will see if I can use potential offers to force an increase in my wage that way. Cheers for the advice guys
I feel I ought to issue a word of caution here.

I'm not suggesting, quite, to use a job offer as a form of blackmail. Or if you do, be very careful how you do it. Be aware, in my opinion you have to commit to going and taking the new job, not just using it as leverage.

It's all in how you present it. To put it in cartoon form, if you roll up to your boss and tell him you've got a better offer and he'd better match it or you're outta here, you'll probably get marching orders. Or worse, he'll agree, match it, wait until your offer has expired then quietly recruit your replacement before finding an excuse to dump you.

On the other hand, if you find the new job and then hand in your notice, clearly very reluctantly, pointing out that you love it there and hate to leave but you're finding it increasingly difficult to manage and, after all, haven't had a rise in three years .... I'm sure you get the picture.

This whole business is a game, and he looks to be playing it. You need to, as well, but play it smartly. Think, don't react emotionally.

If you'd like to stay, then play it with that in mind but bear in mind to do it properly, handing in your notice has to be sincere because he might not try to talk you out of it. If you try this, you certainly do risk burning bridges, so only do that if you really are willing to jump ship if it comes to it.
 
I feel I ought to issue a word of caution here.

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If you try it - and don't get your marching orders, you are pretty much guaranteed to be well and truly shafted down the line. You need to be moving on out of there and don't take any counter-offer: Think about it, why are they suddenly being nice now. Did you not deserve it before.

Very, very, few people are irreplaceable in any business.
 
Have to agree with Aldav,

It's not wise to playing games with employers. Leave because you really want better prospects and pay.

We live in a working age where people do move around. The days of continued service and loyalty are well behind us. particularly in IT, it doesn't pay to sit around doing the same job, technology move on fast and if you're not careful, you can get left behind.

Always have belief in yourself that you can make a change for the better.
 
Jump ship. Although it's not the same for anyone, early on in my career the only way I was able to get pay rises and steps up in responsibilities was to jump ship every few years.
 
Whoa... that wage is an absolute joke, no matter where you are in the country.

As others have said, stick it out for now but put every effort you have on finding a new job. At least you have more experience under your belt -- something beyond logging tickets and resetting passwords -- so look around for medium sized companies to join.

Even if you aren't exactly experienced in dealing with servers, always stress your willingness and aptitude for learning. If the interviewer likes you, they'll generally take the punt if you seem like someone who can learn new things quickly and develop in the role.

For a 1st/2nd line position, dealing with server administration and other enterprise stuff such as backup restorations, Exchange, BES (or Windows Phone), Lync etc. you'd be looking entry at around £22k IMO.
 
Like everyone else has said, stay with the job but start looking for a new one immediately. My 1st line guys are paid more than that for less work, so you're definitely underpaid. Keep learning the new skills you can and use them to get a better job elsewhere.

Good luck :)
 
I can't believe how underpaid that is; you would be paid more working in retail.

As others have said, definitely worth staying their until you find another job, especially if it helps you get that motorcycle. ;)
 
It might also be worth asking around at what others earn in your area doing similar work. When you go for interviews, prospective employers will more than likely ask you what you'd expect to earn and saying that you were on 14k will possible leave you in the same position, loads of employers would be more than happy to offer you 15k and exploit you like your current employer.
 
It might also be worth asking around at what others earn in your area doing similar work. When you go for interviews, prospective employers will more than likely ask you what you'd expect to earn and saying that you were on 14k will possible leave you in the same position, loads of employers would be more than happy to offer you 15k and exploit you like your current employer.

But don't be tempted to lie about current salary. A lad had his job offer rescinded in my old company because when they checked his references they confirmed his salary and it was much lower than what he had lied it was.
 
Don't rule out the nhs jobs website either. There are IT guys in my department on much higher bands than that, and most of their queries come from internal users who are slightly less prone to being rude on the phone. Chances are the pension scheme and annual leave entitlements will be superior too. Clearly you don't have a big team of peers who are all in the same boat, and even working to rule could make you very unpopular, so as these guys have all suggested, take your labour elsewhere. Very few people remain with one employer for life, and although I've been mostly nhs in the last 9 years, I've still moved around the country several times, doing a bit of salary negotiating in the process.
 
But don't be tempted to lie about current salary. A lad had his job offer rescinded in my old company because when they checked his references they confirmed his salary and it was much lower than what he had lied it was.


Can the current company you work for really reveal what salary you on currently on to another company ?
 
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