Deep nerd braincheck - ProArt B650 Vs x670 capability check

Armageus said:
If you're actually considering the X670 Proart then it might be worth looking at a Threadripper, as the motherboard cost isn't a huge amount more, and you'll actually have enough PCI-E lanes to not have to worry with e.g. 4x NVME drives



My basket at OcUK:

Total: £2,039.93 (includes delivery: £0.00)​
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Does this not mean I need to spend a fortune on a TR CPU though?! (Ie £2k-10k) Or do they work with ordinary chips?!?
 
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Ah good, that feels like a contender then - seems reasonable value, but has the essentials....?
 
katie279 said:
Ah good, that feels like a contender then - seems reasonable value, but has the essentials....?
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Yup, it looks like a reasonable way to get 4 uninhibited M.2 slots, my only misgiving is that they only used 1 CPU slot, with the other 3 connected to the chipset. Not likely to be a problem though, unless you're planning to hammer all the drives simultaneously.
 
Yeah good advice, I'd thought through that and think it's pretty unlikely/impossible I'd ever hit all four in one whack!
 
Value wise the Pro ART models are hard to beat. The X670E model, which you can find for a decent price, Has PCIE 5.0, two USB 4.0 connectors and also 10GB + 2.5 GB Ethernet. These are capabilities which would normally cost £700+ but can be had for low £400s. If you need fast transfer speeds and future proofing, I'd go with that.

I just can't stand the aesthetic myself.
 
Hmm, the pendulum swings back to the ProArt - ok will muse for a week or two and grab one of these in the Jan sales!
 
katie279 said:
Ah very useful - so plan of going with 2 x 48gb seems a neat solution for now then and a easy couple of extra sticks with a bios update in future....

And good to see add-on cards coming - sounds like your recommended MB above might be a good solution then?!?
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I would not suggest you run 4 sticks of DDR5, it doesn’t work well with daisy chain memory configs on motherboards.

You’ll have a ton of stability issues with 4 DIMMS.

Rather stick to 2 larger modules.

Yes, im aware that motherboards come with 4 DDR5 slots, this doesn’t change the fact that it’ll be difficult.
 
katie279 said:
Hmm, the pendulum swings back to the ProArt - ok will muse for a week or two and grab one of these in the Jan sales!
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If you have a use for those features, it is definitely a good board, one of the high-end boards I'd actually buy, but if you don't need them now and are unlikely to ever make decent use of them, then the X670-P is fine.
 
JollyJamma said:
I would not suggest you run 4 sticks of DDR5, it doesn’t work well with daisy chain memory configs on motherboards.

You’ll have a ton of stability issues with 4 DIMMS.

Rather stick to 2 larger modules.

Yes, im aware that motherboards come with 4 DDR5 slots, this doesn’t change the fact that it’ll be difficult.
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Yeah agree, hence 2 x 48gb is a great middle ground. It is stupid they all have four dimms but it doesn't actually work!
 
Tetras said:
If you have a use for those features, it is definitely a good board, one of the high-end boards I'd actually buy, but if you don't need them now and are unlikely to ever make decent use of them, then the X670-P is fine.
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Yeah, I think actually usb4 and speed of the four nvme drives will be something I use almost daily, so it feels like it might be worth it.

Have an AI bot watching prices, so if I see any deals, I'll snap it up...!

Otherwise the x670-P will be very very close, just half the usb transfer speed in terms of impact me personally.
 
katie279 said:
Yeah agree, hence 2 x 48gb is a great middle ground. It is stupid they all have four dimms but it doesn't actually work!
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MSI Seem to have got 4x64GB working:
videocardz.com

MSI teases up to 256GB memory support on AMD X670 motherboard - VideoCardz.com

MSI to enable 256GB memory capacity support on X670 motherboards MSI confirms their motherboards now support up to 256GB memory by using Kingston’s new 64GB modules. In early 2023 AMD and Intel have been working on enabling non-binary DDR5 memory support, introducing 24GB and 48GB memory...
videocardz.com videocardz.com
 
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