Deep Space 9 or Babylon 5? There's only one way to find out...FIGHT!

G-MAN2004 said:
Stargate SG1.
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The one episode I always remember is where the team were caught repeating the same day or period of time over and over but with each passing experience of it, you were shown the steadily increasing juggling skills of one of the team :D made me laugh.
 
If B5 had run as the writer intended, it would have been much better. Series 4 was really 4 and 5 compressed together and series 5 was an add-on afterwards (except for the final episode, which was filmed during series 4). It was still superb because of the writing and because it was written as a story (as opposed to a collection of episodes), but it faltered a lot at the end (because the writer had to compromise the story).

DS9 surprised me...Trek without Enterprise? Trek not on a spaceship at all? That didn't sound good. It was, though, very good indeed. Some story arcs, some meatier storylines, some good characters...all good stuff. They had time for some more fun - remember "Trials and Tribble-ations"?

I like them both and I think they're dissimilar enough to make a straight comparison difficult.

Farscape...no. I liked the idea, but after the first few episodes I realised that the people making it couldn't decide whether it was intended for children or adults and therefore failed to make it for either.

BSG revised looks good so far, but it's a shame that they took an old program and over-wrote it.

ST: Enterprise...I liked it as long as I could manage to forget that Star Trek ever existed, because Enterprise was one long continuity error. Oh, and that last episode. I can only assume that they had a tantrum and wanted to try to ruin everything. An hour of the old BBC test card would have been better. A black screen and someone chanting "Lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala" for an hour would have been better. If anyone decides to watch ST: Enterprise, they would be well advised to avoid watching the last episode and assume it ended on the episode before, with Archer persuading the delegates to return to discussing the alliance (that becomes the UFP).

Although I think Red Dwarf was the best sci-fi :)

Smoke me a kipper. I'll be back for breakfast.
 
snail1 said:
Babylon 5 was, IMHO, by far the better series. With one exception, Jadzia Dax.

(falls off chair drooling)

Can anyone explain why she married Worf?
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Because the scriptwriters told her to. Being a character of their creation, she had to do it. :)

The scene where Sirella of the house of Martok is testing Jadzia Dax to see if she is worthy to marry into the house...it would trigger pon farr in a Vulcan :)
 
liked em both but b5 just seemed a lot darker and the way the story was planned right through worked so well looking back to the days when i loved tng and comparing the old method of an ep where the enterprise would turn up, find a problem save the day then go home to the elvolving constant soryline, no contest
 
weird bit : Babylon 5 in an episode i cant remember was this weird weird sign or something.. A crow appears to Ivanova in a dream or something.... portending some doom damn i cant remember at all.... need to re-watch lol
 
Azagoth said:
Last episode of Enterprise? That was the one in the holodeck wasn't it?
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The one where they turned the whole of Enterprise into a discarded scene in a TNG episode, killed a major character in Enterprise as an afterthought to help Riker make a decision (in the TNG scene so unimportant it was deleted), pretended that Riker watched the entire Enterprise story within an hour or two at most, pretended that Riker and Troi aged 10 years during that hour or two and then de-aged 10 years for the rest of that TNG episode and fast-forwarded 10 years in Enterprise during which time nothing happened and all storylines died, thus killing off Enterprise for good.

The only good point was that it could have explained away the massive continuity errors - if it was just a hologram program, it could have been completely wrong and not an accurate history.

Personally, I would have had the last episode as character pieces: Enterprise is in for repairs and refits, so the crew have a couple of months to recover and reflect. They each have to decide what to do. This was set up to some extent, e.g. the pilot expressed thoughts about settling down on a planet for a change. He has a couple of months - does he settle down and perhaps pursue that possible relationship or does he go back "out there"? Archer should be worried - what about that crap he pulled with the prisoner in the airlock? Is he fit to be a captain? What about his political role in the proto-Federation? Should be pursue that instead? T'Pol had a whole slew of badness on the trip - drug addiction, a couple of mental assaults, her society in turmoil back home. Then there's T'Pol, Tucker and the baby. Should T'Pol return to Vulcan and enter a spiritual life, to recover? Should she work with T'Pau to change Vulcan society? Should she go back "out there"? What about her relationship with Tucker? Similar for Tucker.

There was so much that could have been done with the final episode. I would have had more time, because I wouldn't have passed that abysmal episode with the Orion slaves-who-ruled-everyone cobblers.

The only piece of the final episode I would keep is the final 30s or so, with the 3 Enterprises and their captains with the "To boldly go" speech.
 
CLAWS said:
Stopped watching babylon 5 after the shadow wars, when all the remaining elders came back for the final battle.

Did we ever get to find out what happened with babylon 4? Last I remember was it was stuck in some sort of timetrap/warp thingy?? :confused:
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MAJOR SPOILER IF YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED B5

You should have seen it if you watched up to the Shadow Wars. Babylon 4 reappears in Season 3 Episode 16 where Sheriden & Co travel to it to evacuate it of the personnel still stuck on board. Jeffrey Sinclair stays on board and dissapears with B4 and Zhatrez (sp) back 1000 years to the last shadow war. Whilst travelling back he uses the same Chrysalis stuff the Delenn used but he changes from Human to Minbari (Hence the reason why humans are being born with Minbari souls and the reason why they surrendered at the battle of the line!) and re-appears as Valen. B4 is then used as a base to fight the shadow wars 1000 years before B5 appears!

Am i a B5 geek? :)
 
Angilion said:
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Enterprise started with so much promise, but rapidly snowballed into disaster with its poor plots, massive continuity errors and horrible creative direction from Rick Berman.

The ending basically said to me 'yes we all know we haven't had it as good as the TNG years, so here, watch an hour of TNG instead'. Atrocious.

I doubt JJ Abrahms is going to improve matters with the new movie.
 
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