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I know what your saying but I still beleive that 5mins face to face with anyone at all interested in making money & getting involved would have them salivating at the concept but you'll just have to take my word for that
yeah but why would they get a small share?
if they're doing all the work they're going to want a larger % than you.
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Haha, that would be a good 'un. Either he tries to get funding with vague metaphors that describe his idea or he ends up telling millions of people his idea.
I'll post back in a year or two's time with a link just in case just in case you and millions of others who will be using the site didn't realise it started here by me
will you do the same if it doesn't?
You have a good idea. It involves websites. You don't want to tell anyone about it, especially people who are capable of executing it well, because you (quite reasonably) suspect they'll execute it without you. You also don't want to pay anyone.
There's a solution to this. You need to gain the technical knowledge required to implement this, and find enough spare time to make it work. That way you 1/don't share the knowledge with anyone before release and 2/don't have to pay anyone else.
You'll also have to learn the basics of managing the project, as well as the business implications.
Is the idea good enough to justify spending your time on the above?
There's a solution to this. You need to gain the technical knowledge required to implement this, and find enough spare time to make it work. That way you 1/don't share the knowledge with anyone before release and 2/don't have to pay anyone else.
You'll also have to learn the basics of managing the project, as well as the business implications.
Is the idea good enough to justify spending your time on the above?
Kermit, I am an experienced front-end developer and always looking for exciting projects to work on and would like to know what your idea and possibly help out, would be happy to sign an NDA also.
Surprised there hasn't been more interest in this to be honest, whats there to lose really?
email is in trust if you want to talk further about it
Surprised there hasn't been more interest in this to be honest, whats there to lose really?
email is in trust if you want to talk further about it
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Months of your life?
But it could end up very worthwhile if the idea is good enough.. and you don't get anywhere without putting hard work in, especially in this industry and I'm speaking from experience by working at very successful start up companies that have earned millions of pounds from very little startup cash without VCs' help
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Yes but I suspect every dev who's read this automatically assumed the idea is rubbish and they don't want to have to tell the OP that once they've signed the NDA and heard the idea. Crushing a man's dream and all.
How can any dev think that the idea is rubbish when the OP hasn't actually said anything about the project itself...?
If Kermit told any interested dev, the dev should give good reasons as to why he/she thinks it might not work or might not just be for them for any reason... and not just say, 'its crap, wont work etc'
And if they do say that, then there probably not even the sort of person you would want to work with anyway...
If Kermit told any interested dev, the dev should give good reasons as to why he/she thinks it might not work or might not just be for them for any reason... and not just say, 'its crap, wont work etc'
And if they do say that, then there probably not even the sort of person you would want to work with anyway...
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If I was a developer I would hear him out, but I'm a SQL man. I just think most people automatically dismissed it, otherwise there would be more positive responses.
ive not thought this out too much but might as well throw it into the mix: maybe you could divide the project up sufficiently for different developers so that no single developer gets a handle on the overall idea? (like encapsulation for those oop folk)
That will doom the idea to be executed poorly. So somebody else will come along and copy the purported original idea, and the risk is there that they will do it better than the OP.
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Well, most experienced developers are jaded from hearing this kind of story from people like the OP 100s of times before.
No offence to the OP - perhaps their idea is great and they'll be successful. Even if that happens, though, I won't lose any sleep over the fact that I turned this down without wasting my time trying to find out more.
I think the truth is actually more along the lines of: most "experienced" developers are too locked in to their daily grind, their cushy salary, and are too risk averse.
Only a very very small percentage of the developers out there have ever taken a risk on a startup venture. Whilst most surely get stung, a few do okay, and a very small few hit the jackpot.
95% of developers in the world are too thick (and they know it) to ever even consider taking a simple project of their own to market. Seriously.
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Sure. If that makes you feel better, go for it.
There will always be one piece of information that will be the piece that brings it all together. You can listen to someone explain their idea and as soon as they say one thing, you know exactly where they are going.
Other issue is that should that person then bugger off and implement it, you wouldn't be able to claim they stole your idea as you hadn't actually told them your idea, just part of it. They would claim that they came up with most of the idea and just used a bit of your original idea.
We would all love for the OP to have a wonderful idea that makes him a fortune but you have to understand that most developers have worked with a lot of people and heard a lot of "ideas" that are just plain rubbish or even if they are good, would require so much development that its just not possible.
The developers would be doing 90% of the work for a tiny share of the profit. Couple that with the issues of having a large company come along and copy your idea but with more resources and you will have a hard time selling it to developers.
Your best bet would be to get some students involved or get some VC funding to pay developers. You can give them a cut of the company but most will want paying at the same time. Its just not quite as simple as some people make out to build a successful web company and maintain it. If your developers are poor or slow, you may find that even after you enjoy some success, the way they have built the system makes it unstable, un-scalable or insecure, all of which can scupper a budding company very quickly.
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I'm in a similar position at the moment, had a great idea but didn't know how to implement it.
I'm currently working through learning the skills I need to get it off the ground in my spare time.
I'm currently working through learning the skills I need to get it off the ground in my spare time.