The people who started facebook/ms etc were highly skilled in the computing field and had significant startup funding. Ironically facebook was a stolen idea which resulted in lawsuits.
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The people who started facebook/ms etc were highly skilled in the computing field and had significant startup funding. Ironically facebook was a stolen idea which resulted in lawsuits.
This is so true.
Having an original idea is all well and good but what are you going to do when the site is live? If it's a good idea people will copy it and almost certainly execute it better than you. Your only advantage is that small window when your site is the only site that can offer this service/functionality. How are you going to capitalise on that OP?
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I'm p sure 4chan and reddit dont make money and 4chan is a constant drain on moot. You should combine Twitter and Viagra to make Twitagra.
2 things:
1) Proposing sweat equity is unlikely to couple you with a decent developer.
2) Don't be too protective of your idea. If it is any good (and profitable), the likes of Facebook, Twitter, etc will have 100 developers far better than yours making their own version of it within months anyway- you'll have to tell someone about it at some point.
However:
I have successfully (and pretty much single- handedly) taken concepts to market in the field of e-commerce.... outside of my dayjob (Also IT) so if you want a sounding board, or want to discuss it, I am also happy to sign an NDA and go over it.
1) Proposing sweat equity is unlikely to couple you with a decent developer.
2) Don't be too protective of your idea. If it is any good (and profitable), the likes of Facebook, Twitter, etc will have 100 developers far better than yours making their own version of it within months anyway- you'll have to tell someone about it at some point.
However:
I have successfully (and pretty much single- handedly) taken concepts to market in the field of e-commerce.... outside of my dayjob (Also IT) so if you want a sounding board, or want to discuss it, I am also happy to sign an NDA and go over it.
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why has no one commented on the op not only asking for a dev to work for free, but 2 devs, a project manager and a business manager, all sharing just 40% at most between them. i assume he's also looking for an office to use for free kitted out with computers, phones, receptionist etc as at a big guess given that he told his dad he still lives with his parents?
after all of the above i don't actually know what the op will be doing.
imo if you think it will be a success op then learn to code and make the site yourself keeping 100% for you. it'd take 6 months at most to learn the languages needed maybe even quicker if you're actually dedicated to the idea. without trying to sound harsh, some reason i get the impression you'd rather someone else do the work for you.
btw coming up with an idea literally is no work at all. since i was 16 i've come up with 100's ideas just sat in bed. it's so easy to do anyone does it. the harder part is running a business, making the idea, which you can't do any of.
i don't want to sound negative, but i know how it is to have a must have idea and the stupid naive view on how easy it is to do. i'm currently on my 6th business (all of which make no money but that's another issue of doing too many things at once) i'm finally now with a business partner which this is his first and he comes out with comments like you all the time. tells me how easy it will be that once you put an item up for sale hundreds of people will randomly start buying it and paying more then the competition. he thinks all we need to do is show tesco our product and bam they'll put it on every shelf, and it'll fly off. thankfully it's not as easy as that and you have to work for success
after all of the above i don't actually know what the op will be doing.
imo if you think it will be a success op then learn to code and make the site yourself keeping 100% for you. it'd take 6 months at most to learn the languages needed maybe even quicker if you're actually dedicated to the idea. without trying to sound harsh, some reason i get the impression you'd rather someone else do the work for you.
btw coming up with an idea literally is no work at all. since i was 16 i've come up with 100's ideas just sat in bed. it's so easy to do anyone does it. the harder part is running a business, making the idea, which you can't do any of.
i don't want to sound negative, but i know how it is to have a must have idea and the stupid naive view on how easy it is to do. i'm currently on my 6th business (all of which make no money but that's another issue of doing too many things at once) i'm finally now with a business partner which this is his first and he comes out with comments like you all the time. tells me how easy it will be that once you put an item up for sale hundreds of people will randomly start buying it and paying more then the competition. he thinks all we need to do is show tesco our product and bam they'll put it on every shelf, and it'll fly off. thankfully it's not as easy as that and you have to work for success
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Sounds familiar
Developing a solid website is about 10% of the work (tops) - actually turning it into something people will see and use/ buy from is FAR harder and this is exactly what people forget when starting out.
I appreciate what you are saying, I appreciate the skill and dedication it takes to create even the most simple of products. I was just thinking of getting something put together quick and dirty, a proof of concept kind of thing, then look for some kind of investment. As NathanE pointed out, it won't be pretty, but it's better than nothing, and at the very least dividing the labour will give some amount of secrecy to the project. I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to work on any project for peanuts though. It was just a fleeting thought on my part anyway, I suppose I put myself up to be shot down, and down I go
Sounds familiar
Developing a solid website is about 10% of the work (tops) - actually turning it into something people will see and use/ buy from is FAR harder and this is exactly what people forget when starting out.
This.
Even simple matters like ranking well in google are tough, let alone trying and rising on the rankings whilst hoping others don't implement it better and rank better than you.
This.
Even simple matters like ranking well in google are tough, let alone trying and rising on the rankings whilst hoping others don't implement it better and rank better than you.
Tough or expensive, usually not both, but always one.
this is an interesting thread.
Kermit, how long (realistically) do you think your website would take to implement? is it as complex as Facebook, for example? are you talking about an entire ecosystem like fb is, or something smaller and more focused?
Kermit, how long (realistically) do you think your website would take to implement? is it as complex as Facebook, for example? are you talking about an entire ecosystem like fb is, or something smaller and more focused?
Sure - email in trust
- I'm off to bed now but if I don't hear from you tomorrow I'll email your trust account over the weekend.